Thanks.....very well written and I appreciate the reorientation into reality.
S On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Read this.... > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution>For > wiki it is surprisingly accurate. > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Sharon Fuentes <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Mark was it that or so that we could call up a militia? Do you know which >> of the Federalist papers dicuss this issue? It seems some 20+yrs ago in >> poli-sci we discussed this in context of a Federalist paper. But old age >> stress and a lot crap has diluted my memory. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> S >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:50 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Remember.... the Second amendment is in place not so we can repel >>> invaders whether home or national border... it is there so we can >>> protect ourselves from our own government. >>> >>> On Jul 3, 8:33 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > ** >>> > <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/stungunsandmace/> >>> There >>> > is No First Amendment Without a Second >>> > Amendment.< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/there-is-no-first-a.. >>> .> >>> > *Steve <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/stungunsandmace/>* >>> | >>> > July 3, 2011 at 4:27 am | Tags: Alan >>> > Caruba<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=alan-caruba>, >>> > Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and >>> > Explosives< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=bureau-of-alcohol-tobacco.. >>> .>, >>> > Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear >>> > Arms< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=citizens-committee-for-th.. >>> .>, >>> > Michael Bloomberg< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=michael-bloomberg>, >>> > Obama administration< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=obama-administration>, >>> > Second Amendment >>> > Foundation< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=second-amendment-foundation >>> >, >>> > Second Amendment to the United States >>> > Constitution< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=second-amendment-to-the-u.. >>> .>, >>> > United States < >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=united-states> | >>> > Categories: Constitution < >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=29050>, >>> > crime <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=34945349>, Idiot >>> Law >>> > Makers <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=57323845>, Second >>> > Amendment <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=102988>, Tea >>> > Party<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=34918731>| URL: >>> http://wp.me/pKuKY-7VU >>> > >>> > <http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/gunflash.gif> >>> > >>> > Like AMEX, Don 't Leave Home Without It. >>> > >>> > *A very timely reminder of just how and where we came from. And the >>> > Consequences of ever giving up your second amendment right. Happy 4th >>> Of >>> > July, It's up to us to have many more. ~Steve~* >>> > >>> > *Reposted From Tea Party Nation.* >>> > >>> > http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3355873%3ABlogPos. >>> .. >>> > >>> > Posted by Alan Caruba< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/profile/AlanCaruba>on >>> > July 2, 2011 at 5:00pm >>> > >>> > Send Message <http://l/> View Alan Caruba's >>> > blog< >>> http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blog/list?user=wo5vy0y6lr5s> >>> > >>> > By Alan Caruba >>> > >>> > When we celebrate the Fourth of July< >>> http://www.history.com/topics/july-4th>, >>> > let’s keep in mind that the first >>> > Americans<http://www.history.com/topics/states>won their independence >>> > from England with the force of arms. It was, in fact, >>> > a British effort in 1775 to confiscate military arms they believed were >>> > stored in Lexington and Concord, Massachusetts that sparked the war. >>> > >>> > The Founding Fathers were so aware of the need for an armed citizenry >>> that, >>> > after ensuring freedom of religion, speech, press and the right to >>> > peacefully assemble in the First Amendment, the Second guaranteed their >>> > right to bear arms. >>> > >>> > Wherever authoritarian regimes were established in the last century, >>> they >>> > took away this right and then proceeded to kill those deemed enemies of >>> the >>> > state. >>> > >>> > At this point in American history, the Obama >>> > administration<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/obama-administration >>> >constitutes >>> > a threat to the Constitution in general and the Second >>> > Amendment< >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Co.. >>> .>in >>> > particular. >>> > *More than 80,000,000 Americans are gun owners.* >>> > >>> > Two of the organizations that have been fighting to protect these >>> rights are >>> > the Second Amendment >>> > Foundation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_Foundation >>> >(SAF) >>> > and the Citizens >>> > Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear >>> > Arms< >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Committee_for_the_Right_to_Keep.. >>> .>(CCRKBA), >>> > both led by Alan M. Gottlieb. Three quarters of the SAF budget is >>> > devoted to defending rights pertaining to the ownership of guns and to >>> carry >>> > them for self-defense. >>> > >>> > In March, the Huffington Post had an article titled "Obama Looking for >>> Ways >>> > Around Congress on Gun >>> > Policy"< >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/obama-gun-laws-congress_n_83.. >>> .>by >>> > Sam Stein. "Faced with a Congress hostile to even slight restrictions >>> > of >>> > Second Amendment rights, the Obama administration is exploring >>> potential >>> > changes to gun laws that can be secured strictly through executive >>> action, >>> > administration officials, say." >>> > >>> > *Since then we have learned of a U.S. Alcohol, Tobacco and >>> > Firearms<http://www.atf.gov/>program, Fast and Furious, that actually >>> > facilitated the sale and transfer >>> > of guns to Mexico. How demented is that?* >>> > >>> > In May in my home state of New Jersey the SAF won a decision against >>> > officials for the deprivation of civil rights under the color of law >>> when >>> > they had ruled that an applicant for a concealed carry permit had not >>> > demonstrated a "justifiable need" for it. In point of fact, the >>> applicant, >>> > Philip Muller, had been kidnapped by members of a motorcycle gang who >>> > threatened to kill him. They had, however, grabbed the wrong man. >>> > >>> > Despite support by local and state police, action on his application >>> was >>> > delayed for six months. Morris County Superior Court Judge David >>> Ironson >>> > issued a directive that a permit should be granted. The case is still >>> > on-going with other plaintiffs that include a part-time sheriff’s >>> deputy, an >>> > applicant who carries large amounts of cash in his private business, >>> and a >>> > civilian employee of the FBI with legitimate concerns of an attack from >>> a >>> > radical Islamic group. >>> > >>> > Currently nearly thirty such cases have either been brought or joined >>> by SAF >>> > to stop abuses of this most fundamental right of American citizens >>> ranging >>> > from bans on interstate handgun sales, New York Mayor Michael >>> > Bloomberg<http://www.biography.com/articles/Michael-Bloomberg-16466704 >>> >’s >>> > imposition of a $340 fee for a permit to keep a handgun in one’s home, >>> and a >>> > Chicago ban on gun ranges open to the public. These cases cost between >>> > $60,000 and $80,000 each! >>> > >>> > *The greatest single threat to gun ownership right now is a United >>> Nations >>> > "Small Arms Treaty" falsely identified as an "international arms >>> control >>> > treaty" allegedly to fight terrorism."* >>> > >>> > "In reality," says Gottlieb, it is "a massive, global gun control >>> scheme. >>> > It’s a sham. It’s a fraud." If the U.S., under the Obama administration >>> and >>> > with the consent of the Senate, were to sign on to this treaty, it >>> would >>> > nullify the Second Amendment. >>> > >>> > Suffice to say that the Obama administration wants to have the power to >>> > increase federal fees on guns and ammunition, to ban guns that are >>> imported, >>> > to extend the waiting periods for permits, to ban the use of guns on >>> all >>> > government property, and even to make it illegal if you own a gun and >>> smoke! >>> > >>> > Americans do not have to "justify" gun ownership. It is guaranteed by >>> the >>> > Second Amendment. The reality is that enemies of this fundamental >>> rights >>> > continue to wage an assault on it. >>> > >>> > For information about SAF visithttp://www.saf.org/and CCRKBA athttp:// >>> www.ccrkba.org/. >>> > >>> > © Alan Caruba, 2011 >>> > >>> > Add a comment to this >>> > post< >>> http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/there-is-no-first-a.. >>> .> >>> > >>> > [image: WordPress] >>> > >>> > WordPress.com <http://wordpress.com/> | Thanks for flying with >>> WordPress! >>> > Manage Subscriptions< >>> http://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=5d39acfd19218362d540a3fc3dc3315d&.. >>> .>| >>> > Unsubscribe< >>> http://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=5d39acfd19218362d540a3fc3dc3315d&.. >>> .>| >>> > Express >>> > yourself. Start a blog. <http://wordpress.com/signup/?ref=email> >>> > >>> > *Trouble clicking? 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