What I find both humorous, but at the same time troublesome, is that the writer of this epistle doesn't have his facts correct. "They" being those that call themselves "Libertarian"; really "don't get it".
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 8:59 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]>wrote: > Tell me, just how many more times must this single encounter be > "translated" so we can understand it?? > > That so many fine authors want to put such a short list of short > encounters in front of me with such long in-depth definitions and > explanations is so very Republican/Democratic of them. > > I was under the impression that the best thing about Paul supporters > was that they "get it". Those that don't "get it" probably never > will. > > Just what is to be gained by boring the piss out of me and making sure > that I ignore the next 20 minute article about a 5 minute > conversation? > > Answer... I will ignore all that follow whether about new info or > not. > > > On Aug 19, 5:53 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > Friday, August 19, 2011Ron Paul s Exchange with Santorum Says It Allby > Jacob G. Hornberger > > The exchange over Iran between Ron Paul and Rick Santorum in the recent > Republican presidential debate goes a long way in explaining why the > mainstream statists, including those in the Republican Party and the > mainstream media, wish that libertarians would just go away. > > Santorum pointed to 1979, the year of the Iranian revolution, when the > Iranian people took U.S. diplomats hostage and held them in captivity for > about a year. Santorum pointed to that pivotal event to show that the United > States has been at war with Iran ever since. > > For statists, Santorum s point is the end of the discussion. The U.S. > government is good. It is innocent. It was just minding its own business > when Iranian revolutionaries attacked our country without any reason > whatsoever. > > We saw the same phenomenon after the 9/11 attacks. They just hate us for > our freedom and values, U.S. officials cried. We were just minding our own > business when the terrorists decided to kill Americans. The sentiment was > the mindset of American statists. > > And what happens if a libertarian says, Wait a minute. The story isn t > that simple. Let s look at what motivated these foreigners to do these > things. Let s examine what the U.S. government has been doing in foreign > affairs ? > > Well, we all know what happens. The statists go ballistic, both in > politics and in mainstream newspapers across the land. Oh, you re blaming > America! You hate our country! You must be a terrorist yourself. America, > love our government or leave our country! > > In fact, Paul s exchange with Santorum wasn t the first time this has > happened. Recall that famous debate exchange between Paul and Rudy Guliani > four years ago. Paul pointed out that the terrorists came here on 9/11 to > kill us because our government had been over there for years killing them. > > Guliani went ballistic, as did his fellow statists on the stage. Their > fellow statists in the mainstream media went crazy too. No one, and > certainly not a presidential candidate, is supposed to say such things. It s > considered beyond the pale. Everyone knows that our government is good, > wise, and benevolent, believes in freedom and democracy, and would never do > anything bad to foreigners. > > Yet, that s actually when Ron Paul s 2008 presidential campaign took off. > Tens of thousands of ordinary Americans instinctively knew that here was a > man who wasn t feeding them pabulum. Here was a man who had the courage to > speak the truth about U.S. foreign policy. He was willing to observe openly > that the emperor wore no clothes. > > And that s why the statists wish that Ron Paul would just go away. It s > why they wish libertarians would just go away. That s why they resent us. We > cause people to confront reality, which is sometimes not a comfortable thing > to do. In a sense, we libertarians are therapists, people who help their > patients confront realities that are oftentimes quite painful to face. > > Look at the drug war. The statists just want to keep doing what they ve > been doing for 40 years -- busting drug sellers, busting drug users, and > locking people up for the rest of their lives. Along come libertarians and > point out the utter inanity of the whole thing. The never-ending deaths, > destruction, corruption, violence, gang wars, and infringements on privacy > and liberty. Libertarians say: End this idiocy by legalizing drugs. > > But that s considered outside the pale for the statists. It s okay to > call for reform of such programs. But abolition? Oh my gosh! I wish those > libertarians would just shut up and go away. Everything is working out so > fine without them. > > Look at how Ron Paul responded to Santorum. He explained to Santorum that > the history of bad relations between Iran and the United States did not > begin in 1979 but rather in 1953. That was the year that the CIA, the U.S. > government s secret intelligence force, entered into Iran and ousted the > democratically elected prime minister of the country, Mohammed Mossadegh, a > man who had been named Time Magazine s Man of the Year. > > Why did the CIA do that? No, not for freedom and democracy, as the > statists would like to believe. Instead, the CIA interfered with the > internal affairs of Iran to retaliate for Mossadegh s nationalization of > British oil concessions. Yes, the CIA s anti-democracy coup was about oil, > not freedom and democracy. > > In fact, having ousted a democratically elected prime minister, the CIA > proceeded to install a non-elected brutal dictator, the Shah of Iran, into > power. The CIA then proceeded to train and work closely with the Shah s > counterpart to the CIA, his brutal and tortuous Savak intelligence force. > The Shah then proceeded to impose one of the harshest dictatorial regimes in > the world on the Iranian people, with the full support of the CIA and the > rest of the U.S. government. > > Of course, U.S. officials didn t care one whit what the Shah was doing to > the Iranian people. All that mattered was that he was our friend. > > Imagine if Savak had assassinated John Kennedy in order to get Lyndon > Johnson into power. How would the American people feel about that some 50 > years later? I ll tell you: the deep anger and rage would still be palpable. > > Well, that s how the Iranian people felt about the U.S. government in > 1979. That s why they took the U.S. officials hostage. They were still angry > about the CIA s ouster of their democratically elected prime minister. They > were still angry about the Iranian people who had been brutalized, > incarcerated, and tortured by the Shah and his goons, with the full support > and cooperation of the CIA. > > That s what Santorum and his fellow statist cohorts don t want to > confront. They want to continue living their blissful little lives of > delusion. For them, the federal government is god. It is all-good. It is > all-knowing. It is all-powerful. It doesn t support dictatorships. It > believes in freedom and democracy. It never does bad things to people, not > even conduct syphilis experiments on them. > > That s the myth that is inculcated in every public school across America > and in most government-licensed private schools. That s the mindset that is > produced in people like Santorum and the other statist candidates on that > stage. > > It s also the mindset of the mainstream news media reporters asking the > questions. That s why they feel so comfortable with the statists on stage. > That s why they feel so uncomfortable whenever Ron Paul is answering their > questions. > > Let s face it: the statists wish that libertarians had never been born > and are extremely concerned about the rising popularity of libertarianism > among the American people. That s why they ve done their best to lock the > Libertarian Party out of the political process with their inane > ballot-restriction barriers. That s why they kept Ron Paul, a long-serving > congressman, out of the early presidential debates four years ago. That s > why they are keeping Gary Johnson, a popular two-term governor of New > Mexico, out of the current round of debates. After all, Johnson, another > libertarian, is also calling for ending the drug war and bringing the troops > home. Why should it surprise us that they re locking him out of the > presidential debates, as they tried to do four years ago with Ron Paul? > > They think that if they can just keep hewing to their little myths and > delusions and keep teaching them to their children in their > government-approved schools, everything will be fine. If they could only > shut out those pesky libertarians who confront people with truth and > reality, everything would be hunky dory. > > But truth will out, which is why so many people are gravitating to Ron > Paul. They instinctively know that he s speaking truth to power, and they > can see that power doesn t like it. > > Ron Paul summed up the problem most eloquently when, in response to Rick > Santorum, he stated, We just plain don t mind our own business. That s our > problem. > > Of course, that s the problem with statists. 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