Good morning Geoffrey! I guess I should clear up my rather negative comments, and in general, here are some of my thoughts:
Like you, I have been one who believed that I could support whoever the candidate was after the Tampa Convention, and I most probably will still do so. In my adult, professional career, which has encompassed a number of campaigns and elections; many of which I was actively involved, I have never seen the Republicans do what has happened this year. The Ron Paul campaign as well as the Mitt Romney campaign have been nothing less than despicable, and it will be hard for me to support either of these men in any future endeavors that they ever are involved in. As I stated, I am still one that believes I will support whoever the Republican candidate is, as I believe that the most important thing is to defeat President Obama, and the broken beyond repair Democratic Party. Having said that, many of the conservatives that I know are not at all amused, and far less forgiving that I am! Again, I hope that I am wrong, but I just don't see the Republican Party coming back and reunifying after all that has happened this year. If Romney loses Michigan, and Gingrich loses Georgia, bet money on someone like Jeb Bush, or even Sarah Palin entering the race. If that happens, the Republicans are toast in 2012. Personally, I don't believe that anyone other than Newt Gingrich can beat Obama now, out of the four candidates. You have crackpots and Moonbats who don't have a realistic handle on politics and who will disagree with me, but in truth, I really don't see Romney and especially Santorum beating Obama. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]>wrote: > i hope you're wrong also.but i think we will have to buck up, hold our > noses > and vote for whoever the nominee is to do otherwise is a sure obama > victory. > i'm more concerned about federal and supreme court nominations than > anything else. > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Keith In Tampa > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I think its very likely that they sit out with disinterest in 2012. I >> would have never thought this four years ago, two years ago, or even last >> month. And I hope I am wrong. >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM, geoffrey theist >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> where are they going? i see no viable third party. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> The Republican Party is so fractionalized now, that I don't know ithat >>>> it can ever recover. Conservatives have had all they can enjoy, and I >>>> really don't see any of the four current candidates even getting the >>>> nomination now; it will be someone who comes in after Super Tuesday. We >>>> have the likes of the Ron Paul supporters, as well as the establishment >>>> "Blue Blood North-East Corrider Rockfellerian" Republicans to blame for >>>> conservatives leaving the Republican Party in droves. I don't know that >>>> it can be fixed now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM, plainolamerican < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> so a traitorous jew jumps sides in the jew-muzzy war ... imprison him >>>>> for his crimes, then deport him. >>>>> >>>>> to use him as fodder in the GOP race is lame >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 19, 7:27 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > February 15th, 2012 by >>>>> > Joe Newby >>>>> > >>>>> > Yousef al-Khattab, co-founder of the Islamist website and group >>>>> Revolution >>>>> > Muslim, endorsed GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul in a Youtube >>>>> video >>>>> > posted earlier this month. >>>>> > >>>>> > “In the United States I believe in the rights to life, liberty and >>>>> the >>>>> > pursuit of happiness, because I believe that is the most beneficial >>>>> thing >>>>> > that we have availabe to us as of right now which is within our >>>>> goal, and >>>>> > of course you have to vote for Ron Paul to get that,” al-Khattab >>>>> said in a >>>>> > rambling 7-minute video. >>>>> > >>>>> > Walid Shoebat< >>>>> http://www.shoebat.com/blog/2012/02/14/video-former-al-qaeda-supporte.. >>>>> .>notes >>>>> > that al-Khattab “once supported Osama bin Laden,” the terrorist >>>>> > responsible for the 9/11 attacks. >>>>> > >>>>> > al-Khattab, born Joseph >>>>> > Cohen<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_Muslim>- an American >>>>> Jew >>>>> > who converted to Islam in 2000, told NPR in 2010 the >>>>> > group he help found and later left was supposed to be a radical >>>>> Islamist >>>>> > organization. >>>>> > >>>>> > NPR <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130519592> >>>>> added: >>>>> > >>>>> > "All we want is the non-Muslims, at this point, off the lands of >>>>> Muhammad. >>>>> > ... We want the *kafirs* out of it," Khattab said in one interview, >>>>> using a >>>>> > term for infidels or Muslim nonbelievers. When asked if he wanted >>>>> Islam to >>>>> > take over the world, his answer was unequivocal: "Of course I want >>>>> it to >>>>> > ... and it will." >>>>> > >>>>> > To promote that world view, Khattab and a friend of his — Columbia >>>>> > University graduate Younes Abdullah Mohammed — started a group called >>>>> > Revolution Muslim. Khattab says it was supposed to be both a radical >>>>> > Islamic organization and a movement. It operates openly and freely >>>>> in New >>>>> > York City and on the Web. He says their blog receives 1,500 hits a >>>>> day, >>>>> > while the Revolution Muslim YouTube channel has almost 1,000 >>>>> subscribers. >>>>> > >>>>> > The group's goals include establishing Islamic law in the U.S., >>>>> destroying >>>>> > Israel and taking al-Qaida's messages to the masses. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tuesday, former Paul staffer Eric Dondero wrote at Libertarian >>>>> > Republican< >>>>> http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/02/good-news-ron-paul-wins-.. >>>>> .> >>>>> > : >>>>> > >>>>> > The group, based in New York, works to spread radical Jihadist >>>>> philosphy >>>>> > on-line. They refer to themselves as "E-hadists." One of the groups >>>>> members >>>>> > Younus Abdullah Muhammed recently plead "guilty to using [the] >>>>> internet to >>>>> > Solicit Murder and encourage Violent Extremism." >>>>> > >>>>> > NPR’s Dina Temple-Raston wrote that Revolution Muslim “has its own >>>>> gossamer >>>>> > connections to terrorism,” and added: >>>>> > >>>>> > A list of its recent members reads like a who's who of American >>>>> homegrown >>>>> > terrorism suspects. One has been arrested for wanting to launch an >>>>> attack >>>>> > on the Long Island Rail Road for al-Qaida; three others were >>>>> intercepted >>>>> > getting on flights to join a terrorist group in Somalia. An editor >>>>> believed >>>>> > to be behind an online magazine for al-Qaida's arm in >>>>> > Yemen<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130439697 >>>>> >was >>>>> > a regular in Revolution Muslim chat rooms, as was Jihad >>>>> > Jane <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124815189>, >>>>> the >>>>> > Philadelphia woman arrested last year for plotting to kill a Danish >>>>> > cartoonist. >>>>> > >>>>> > In the video, however, al-Khattab said that everything “should be >>>>> done >>>>> > Constitutionally” adding that all America produces is “pornography >>>>> and >>>>> > ammunition.” >>>>> > >>>>> > Calling Israel a terrorist state, al-Khattab says he agrees with Ron >>>>> Paul’s >>>>> > foreign policy, and further states that the United States should have >>>>> > nothing to do with Israel. >>>>> > >>>>> > Dondero added: >>>>> > >>>>> > In an even creepier video released just two days ago, Al-Khattab >>>>> talks >>>>> > extensively about his expectation of being arrested for terrorist >>>>> links. He >>>>> > rants against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And once again, he >>>>> blames >>>>> > Jews ("the zionists") for his troubles with the law. >>>>> > >>>>> > “The question is... where can we speak about the crimes of our >>>>> foreign >>>>> > policy. And it is a fact... and how can we help to stop funding of >>>>> the >>>>> > enemy zionist entity,” he said. >>>>> > >>>>> > “This certainly doesn’t help Paul’s attempts to quash >>>>> > accusations< >>>>> http://rightwingnews.com/election-2012/statement-from-fmr-ron-paul-st.. >>>>> .>that >>>>> > he’s anti-Jewish,” Shoebat wrote. >>>>> > >>>>> > Nor will it help Paul convince conservative Republicans he should be >>>>> the >>>>> > GOP nominee to run against Barack Obama in the fall. >>>>> > >>>>> > More on Ron Paul at Examiner.com >>>>> > here<http://www.examiner.com/ron-paul-in-spokane> >>>>> > . >>>>> > >>>>> > Yousef.al.Khattab.RonPaulIsForMe.PraiseAllah!.jpg >>>>> > 25KViewDownload >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at >>>>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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