Hey Mark and PlainOl,

Who is it that you think is framing "On Line Bullying";  e.g.; that someone
or some group put up a FaceBook page, even containing mis-information,  and
classifies this as "Bullying"?

Could it be the LGT  Alliance?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:26 AM, plainolamerican
<[email protected]>wrote:

> vast amount of "bullying" was on-line. This is
> not "bullying".. it has an off switch...
> ---
> I agree.
>
>
> On Apr 19, 8:23 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yep,
> >
> > I am gonna dye my hair "queen for a day" pink, tweeze my eyebrows and
> > not be ready to take a whole lot of shit .... even from other gays...
> >
> > I understand that that vast amount of "bullying" was on-line. This is
> > not "bullying".. it has an off switch... and he had to turn it on to
> > see it and CHOSE to do so it was self flagellation.
> >
> > On Apr 19, 2:25 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > the age of 14 is way, way, way too young to making determinations
> > > about one's sexual proclivities.
> > > ---
> > > gays don't determine their sexuality
> >
> > >   I do believe that this group encourages
> > > our youth to make such drastic and potentially life changing
> > > announcements.   For this reason, the LGT Alliance should be scorned.
> > > ---
> > > they don't encourage people to come out ... they encourage those who
> > > are gay to stand up for their rights ... which is a good thing
> >
> > > please ... no name calling or accusations between us on this issue.
> > > I'm just trying to share some things I've learned about gay people
> > > with you ... like the fact that it's almost exclusively religious
> > > people who are fighting with and discriminating against gays.
> >
> > > On Apr 19, 2:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Hello PlainOl,
> >
> > > > I didn't mean to infer or insinuate that a broken home,  divorced
> parents,
> > > > or the LGT Alliance did make one homosexual.   In trying to make
> sense of
> > > > this tragedy,  I just think that it should be noted, and said out
> loud,
> > > > that the age of 14 is way, way, way too young to making
> determinations
> > > > about one's sexual proclivities.  I do believe that this group
> encourages
> > > > our youth to make such drastic and potentially life changing
> > > > announcements.   For this reason, the LGT Alliance should be scorned.
> >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:53 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > It is NOT  acceptable for a young
> > > > > 14 year old kid to come out and declare his sexuality at that age!
> > > > > ---
> > > > > opinion noted
> > > > > accept it or not ... he had every right to do so
> >
> > > > > btw - broken homes and the Lesbian, Gay Transgender alliance  do
> not
> > > > > make people homosexuals
> >
> > > > > On Apr 19, 2:42 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > I have just taken the time to read the story(ies)  of Kenneth
> James
> > > > > > Weishuhn.   There is no question that this is tragic,  and
> heartbreaking.
> > > > > > It's heartbreaking any time a fourteen year old child,
>  literally a babe,
> > > > > > takes his own life.
> >
> > > > > > One has to wonder what could have caused a 14 year old kid to
> take his
> > > > > own
> > > > > > life?   I read the allegations of bullying;  but this was
> purportedly on
> > > > > a
> > > > > > FaceBook page,  and for the life of me, I find this hard to
> believe that
> > > > > > this could have been the sole reasoning behind this child's
> suicide,
> > > > >  even
> > > > > > if accurate and true.
> >
> > > > > > What would have inspired a 14 year old kid to come out and
> declare
> > > > > himself
> > > > > > to be, "Gay"?  When I was fourteen, my hormones were racing to
> extent of
> > > > > > bursting!  I know that I grew up in a different era;  literally,
> a
> > > > > > different world, but I had no idea what my true sexual
> inclinations were
> > > > > at
> > > > > > the age of 14.   I do know that it would not have been socially
> > > > > acceptable
> > > > > > for me, or anyone to proclaim their sexual identity in Junior
> High
> > > > > School,
> > > > > > and I cannot help but think that this is still improper today,
> in the New
> > > > > > Millennium.
> >
> > > > > > I note that Kenneth comes from a broken home;  e.g.;  that his
> Mom is not
> > > > > > married to his Dad, and there is no mention as to whether they
> were ever
> > > > > > married.  Only that Mom is married to another man today.  My
> parents
> > > > > > divorced when I was in Junior High School, and that was a tough,
> > > > > emotional
> > > > > > roller coaster for me,  but not to the point that I would have
> ever
> > > > > > considered suicide.
> >
> > > > > > A lot of unanswered questions here;  and again,  I cannot help
> but to
> > > > > place
> > > > > > a portion of blame on the whole militant Lesbian, Gay Transgender
> > > > > alliance,
> > > > > > again,  for a porton of this tragedy.   It is NOT  acceptable
> for a young
> > > > > > 14 year old kid to come out and declare his sexuality at that
> age!  It is
> > > > > > as if these people,  as a group, are so focused on their cause
> being,
> > > > > > "Right"  that damn the consequences, and this surely seems to be
> a
> > > > > > consequence......
> >
> > > > > > ==================
> >
> > > > > > *IN LOVING MEMORY OF*
> >
> > > > > > *KENNETH J. WEISHUHN JR**.*
> >
> > > > > >  *BORN
> > > > > > *May 27, 1997
> > > > > > Sheldon, Iowa
> >
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > PASSED AWAY
> > > > > > *April 15, 2012
> > > > > > Primghar, Iowa
> >
> > > > > >  *FUNERAL SERVICE*
> >
> > > > > > 10:30 A.M. Thursday, April 19, 2012
> >
> > > > > > Grace Lutheran Church; Primghar, Iowa
> >
> > > > > > Rev. S. Kim Peterson & Pastor Mike Cooper ~ Officiating
> >
> > > > > > Visitation will be after 2:00 P.M. Wednesday, April 18, 2012
> with the
> > > > > > family present from 5:00 to 7:00 P.M. at the Eldridge Family
> Funeral Home
> > > > > > in Primghar.
> >
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > CONGREGATIONAL HYMNS*
> >
> > > > > > “Amazing Grace”
> >
> > > > > > “How Great Thou Art”
> >
> > > > > > “In the Garden”
> >
> > > > > > “Go, My Children, With My Blessing”
> >
> > > > > > Organist: Donna Struve
> >
> > > > > >  *HONORARY CASKET BEARERS*
> >
> > > > > > Samuel Chambers Theresa Carrillo
> >
> > > > > > Dan Ten Kley Evie-Rose Chambers
> >
> > > > > > *CASKET BEARERS*
> >
> > > > > > Bill Torrence Kenny Chambers
> >
> > > > > > Matthew Schoneman Kenneth J. Weishuhn Sr.
> >
> > > > > > Chris Barrows Jonathan Barrows
> >
> > > > > > Victor Irwin Anthony Vitrano
> >
> > > > > >  *FINAL RESTING PLACE*
> >
> > > > > > Pleasant Hill Cemetery ~ Primghar, Iowa
> >
> > > > > >  *After today’s graveside service family and friends are invited*
> >
> > > > > > *to join the family in the fellowship hall of the church.*
> >
> > > > > >  *Arrangements under the care of*
> >
> > > > > > * Eldridge Family Funeral Home; Primghar, Iowa*
> >
> > > > > >  *In lieu of flowers the family wishes that*
> >
> > > > > > * memorials be made to the family.*
> >
> > > > > > *Kenneth J. Weishuhn Jr.*
> >
> > > > > > Kenneth J. Weishuhn Jr., the son of Kenneth J. Weishuhn Sr. and
> Jeannie
> > > > > > (Barrows) Chambers was born May 27, 1997 in Sheldon, Iowa. He was
> > > > > currently
> > > > > > a freshman at South O’ Brien High School in Paullina, Iowa. He
> passed
> > > > > away
> > > > > > on April 15, 2012 at his parent’s residence in Primghar, Iowa.
> >
> > > > > > He was a member of the Thundercats soccer team. He enjoyed
> shopping,
> > > > > video
> > > > > > games, rollerblading and spending time with his family. KJ was a
> > > > > respectful
> > > > > > and kind person in which he always had a smile on his face. He
> liked the
> > > > > > colors pink and orange. Family was a major part of his life and
> he had a
> > > > > > special bond with his cousins and his best friend, was his
> sister, Kayla
> > > > > > Weishuhn.
> >
> > > > > > Kenneth is survived by his father, Kenneth of Arizona and his
> mother and
> > > > > > step-father, Jeannie and Kenny Chambers of Primghar, Iowa; a
> sister,
> > > > > Kayla
> > > > > > Weishuhn of Primghar, Iowa; a brother, Matthew Schoneman of
> Ashton, Iowa;
> > > > > > aunts, Misty and her husband, Anthony Vitrano of Paullina, Iowa;
> Kim
> > > > > > Weishuhn; Jennifer and her husband, Dan Ten Kley of Primghar,
> Iowa;
> > > > > Suzette
> > > > > > and her husband, Orin and Carrie; and uncles, Chris Barrows of
> Primghar,
> > > > > > Iowa; Tom Weishuhn of Prescott, Arizona; three grandmothers,
> Linda
> > > > > Johnson
> > > > > > of Primghar, Iowa; Theresa Carillo of Prescott, Arizona and CeCe
> Chambers
> > > > > > of Primghar, Iowa; great-grandmother, Dorothy Chambers of
> Primghar, Iowa;
> > > > > > thirteen cousins, Erin, Vicki, Ashley, Brent, Jonathan, Breanne,
> Shey
> > > > > Shey,
> > > > > > Mattie, Theresa, Tomás, Sammi, Evie-Rose and Kendra; also other
> relatives
> > > > > > and friends.
> >
> > > > > > He was preceded in death by his paternal grandfather, George
> Weishuhn and
> > > > > > grandfather, Alfred Chambers.
> >
> > > > > >   [image: Print Directions]Print
> > > > > > Obituary<
> > > > >
> http://www.gaudian-eldridgefuneralhomes.com/fh/print.cfm?type=obituar...>
> > > > > >   *Back* <javascript:javascript:history.go(-1)>* *
> >
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bruce Majors <
> [email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > School choice
> >
> > > > > > > On Thursday, April 19, 2012, Tommy News <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > QUESTION: What More Do We Need To Do To Help Bullied LGBT
> Youth?
> >
> > > > > > > > With the tragic suicide death of bullied Iowa gay teen
> Kenneth James
> > > > > > > > Weishuhn, 14, the subject of gay-teen bullying and suicide
> has come
> > > > > > > > back to the forefront—if it ever, in fact, left.
> >
> > > > > > > > What more do we need to do to help bullied LGBT youth?
> > > > > > > > As the statistics mount, many are saying things like It Gets
> Better,
> > > > > > > > the Trevor Project and even in-school anti-bullying programs
> are not
> > > > > > > > enough. But if that’s true, what should we be doing?
> >
> > > > > > > > Is it a question of more interventions from parents,
> teachers and
> > > > > > > > administrators? Stiffer penalties for bullies?
> >
> > > > > > > > Or are all the news reports, vigils and celebrity statements
> in
> > > > > effect
> > > > > > > > glamorizing suicide? Should we be giving gay youth some
> tough love?.
> >
> > > > > > > > What’s your take on it? Share with the group.
> >
> > > > > > > > Full story here:
> >
> > > > > > >
> http://www.queerty.com/question-what-more-do-we-need-to-do-to-help-bu.
> > > > > ..
> >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > > > > Tommy
> >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > > > > Have a great day,
> >
> > ...
> >
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>
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