Aren't the false idols, gods and other such ... at least curious ... or do you support/affirm them? --- man's imagination is limitless
On Jun 20, 8:46 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > Aren't the false idols, gods and other such ... at least curious ... or do > you support/affirm them? > Regard$, > --MJ > Keep in your eye the opposite pretensions First, of those who say he was > begotten by God, born of a virgin, suspended and reversed the laws of Nature > at will, and ascended bodily into heaven; and second, of those who say he was > a man of illegitimate birth, of a benevolent heart, enthusiastic mind, who > set out without pretensions to divinity, ended in believing them, and was > punished capitally for sedition by being gibbeted, according to the Roman > law, which punished the first commission of that offence by whipping, and the > second by exile or death in furea. -- Thomas Jefferson Works, Vol. ii.At > 09:41 AM 6/20/2012, you wrote:secularists once again forcing their > political correctness upon the rest of Americans. > --- > as opposed to christians forcing their religious beliefs upon the rest > of Americans > On Jun 20, 5:33 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wonder if the United States Armed Services "authorized" a Q'uoran, or > > any other religious works? > > > > I note that since this bru-ha-ha started, the military has since > > discontinued the "authorization" of the use of the military symbols on the > > Holman Bible. > > > > Much ado about nothing, and a bunch of secularists once again forcing their > > political correctness upon the rest of Americans. > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:22 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > some 33 percent of chaplains are now evangelical Christians > > > --- > > > and 100 percent of USSC justices are jews and catholics. > > > > > tit for tat among the myth believers who have forgotten that the USA > > > is a secular nation > > > > > On Jun 19, 3:11 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A Biblical Threat to National SecuritybyKelley B. Vlahos, June 19, 2012 > > > > Can a Bible be a “threat to national security”? > > > > For years, the government has employed the risk of “national security” > > > excuse to infringe on a wide range of freedoms like the right to pass > > > through an airport security checkpoint unmolested, or read library books > > > without Big Brother peeking over your shoulder.Michael L. “Mikey” > > > Weinsteinis trying to prove that there is more than one way to put the > > > country at risk, and he’s found it in a heretofore unlikely place: the > > > Bible. > > > > Well, the Holman Bible. To be more exact, a version of the Bible that, > > > for reasons still undetermined, was authorized with the trademarked > > > official insignia of the U.S. Armed Forces emblazoned on the front cover. > > > There isThe Soldier’s Biblewith the Army’s seal,The Marine’s Biblewith the > > > Marine Corps seal,The Sailor’s BibleandThe Airman’s Bible, both with their > > > respective insignia. The books have been sold for nearly six years > > > throughout Christian bookstores, commissaries and PXs on U.S. military > > > installations and are still available on Christianbook.com,Amazon.comand > > > Barnes & Noble. > > > > It’s not theKing James Versionthatthe Gideonsleave behind in hotel rooms > > > drawers. The Holman Bible was commissioned and published by LifeWay > > > Christian Resources, a subsidiary of theSouthern Baptist Convention, the > > > largest Baptist denomination in the world, in 2003. > > > > In a 1999press releaseannouncing the edition’s progress, Broadman & > > > Holman Publishers called the new version “a fresh, precise translation of > > > the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek of the Old and New Testaments.” LifeWay > > > President James T. Draper Jr. weighed in, saying there was a “serious need > > > for a 21st-century Bible translation in American English that combines > > > accuracy and readability,” adding, “the Holman Christian Standard Bible is > > > an accurate, literal rendering with a smoothness and readability that > > > invites memorization, reading aloud and dedicated study.” > > > > The Holman Bible, or HCSB, has been popular with evangelicals for its > > > references and study tools. Someone convinced each branch of the service > > > they’d be perfect for the military, too. So the HCSB became the “official” > > > Bible of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines in 2004, complete with > > > reader-friendly text and custom “designed to meet the specific needs of > > > those who serve in the most difficult of situations,” according to the > > > publishers. > > > > In other words, aside from the text, the books are filled with > > > “devotionals” and “inspirational essays” tailored to each branch of > > > service. I was unable to get my hands on a copy by press time, but > > > Amazon’s > > > “peek” inside the book and several positive reader reviews confirm some of > > > the contents, revealing what could only be described as a guileless > > > conflation of both Christian and American military iconography. War and > > > service as religious devotion. > > > > In addition to the Pledge of Allegiance and the first and fourth verses > > > of the Star Spangled Banner, there are excerpts from one of George W. Bush > > > inaugural addresses and the Republican president’s remarks at a National > > > Prayer Breakfast.Gen. George S. Patton’s famous Christmas prayer cardfrom > > > the field of battle 1944 is also included, as is“George Washington’s > > > Prayer,”which has been widely circulated (and debunked) as proof of > > > America’s Christian paternity. > > > > These Bibles also feature “testimonials and encouragement from > > > theOfficers’ Christian Fellowship,” which has approximately 15,000 members > > > across the military and whose primary purpose is “to glorify God by > > > uniting > > > Christian officers for biblical fellowship and outreach, equipping and > > > encouraging them to minister effectively in the military society.” In > > > other > > > words they proselytize within the officer corps as part of an evangelical > > > “parachurch” within the military. > > > > A largely unfettered one, apparently, as one watches Pentagon officers > > > commenting freely on camera and in uniform for this Bush-era > > > promotionalvideofor Christian Embassy, another federal government-wide > > > “fellowship” with similar missionary goals. > > > > One officer, Air Force Maj. Gen. Jack Catton, who said he worked on the > > > Joint Staff at the Pentagon, described himself as “an old fashioned > > > American and my first priority is my faith in God.” Pointing to his > > > meeting > > > with other officers under the auspices of Christian Embassy, he said, “I > > > think it’s a huge impact because you have many men and women who are > > > seeking God’s counsel and wisdom as we advise the Secretary of Defense.” > > > > Then U.S. Brigadier Gen. Bob Caslan (currently promoted to lieutenant > > > general as the commanding general at the U.S. Army’s prestigious Combined > > > Arms Center at Ft. Leavenworth, Kan.) went so far as to say he sees the > > > “flag officer fellowship groups … hold me accountable.” > > > > “We are the aroma of Jesus Christ,” he added. > > > > Something smells, all right, said Weinstein, who heads theMilitary > > > Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF). The roles of the officers in the > > > video > > > werelater deemed improperafter MRFF demanded an investigation in 2007. As > > > for the Bibles, Weinstein said he received some 2,000 complaints about > > > them > > > from service members over the last year. Weinstein, a former Air Force > > > Judge Advocate (JAG) whose 2005 charges against the Air Force Academy in > > > Colorado led to an investigation thatofficially found religious > > > “insensitivity”against non- fundamentalists there, has gone on to expose a > > > much wider climate of“top-down, invasive evangelicalism”at the institution > > > and throughout the military as a whole. > > > > “We’re fighting a > > > Fundamentalist-Christian-Parachurch-Military-Corporate-Proselytizing-Complex,” > > > Weinstein said told Antiwar.com last week, “and we have been fighting this > > > for some time.” MRFF just posted a video montage, which could easily be > > > called the military evangelicals’ greatest hits,here. > > > > He said aside from “prostituting” the military insignia, the military’s > > > endorsement of the Bibles violated federal separation of church and state, > > > and continue to sanction an insidious culture of radical evangelicalism > > > and > > > discrimination throughout the services (as a Jew,... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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