Not to mention that in the "War Powers Act" Congress abrogated the call to war to the Executive.
On May 27, 2:26 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > There's no dispute then. The President is the Commander in Chief of the > military. He has an obligation to salute his soldiers and sailors. When > the militia is activated, they serve under the President of the United > States. What part of that do you opine is "Neo-Con"? > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:07 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Only your fantasy. > >> You *do* grasp that the Constitution SEPARATED the 'war making' > >> (Congress) with the 'war executing' (Executive)? > >> I realize that the Neocons have all sorts of contrarian fantasies -- not > >> to mention the USURPATIONS. > > >> Here is the REALITY .... > >> NOTE: > >> AIS8C12 > >> [Congress shall have Power] To make Rules for the Government and > >> Regulation of the land and naval Forces; > > >> The CONGRESS controls the 'military' through its legislated Rules .... > >> when that SAME Congress deems it 'necessary' to 'deploy' those forces, they > >> call the Executive 'into service' ... > > >> Regard$, > >> --MJ > > >> "Considering that Congress alone is constitutionally invested with the > >> power of changing our condition from peace to war, I have thought it my > >> duty to await their authority for using force in any degree which could be > >> avoided." > >> -- Thomas Jefferson, Message to Congress, 1805 > > >> At 01:52 PM 5/27/2013, you wrote: > > >> (There's no misunderstanding, or any other interpretation here....The > >> President of the United States shall be the Commander in Chief of our > >> military services, and the Commander in Chief of any Militias called into > >> service during a time of need, period.) > > >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> Article II, § 2: > > >> "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the > >> United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into > >> the actual Service of the United States;" > > >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:23 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Obama is 'Commander-and-Chief' only *if* and *when* called into service. > >> o such calling (consistent with the Constitution) has occurred since WWI > >> part 2. > > >> Regard$, > >> --MJ > > >> “The Constitution vests the power of declaring war with Congress, > >> therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until > >> after they have deliberated upon the subject, and authorized such a > >> measure.” -- George Washington > > >> At 01:00 PM 5/27/2013, you wrote: > > >> Lew has this one all wrong... Obama IS the Commander-in-Chief... that > >> suit is his uniform... yes, he needs to salute. > > >> On May 27, 10:40 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Should Obama Salute Marines?Posted byLew Rockwellon May 25, 2013 02:39 > >> PM > >> > Well, in Junta USA, anything militaristic is mandatory. But since the > >> president is not a military figure, he should not returnsalutes. You can > >> know this because the neocons are outraged that he didn't. It is a recent > >> practice, that we owe to the man Ralph Raico describes as the "poor halfwit > >> Reagan." > > >> -- > >> -- > >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> <http://www.politicalforum.com/%A0> > >> * It's active and moderated. 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