Good Morning Travis!
I thought the trial was interesting, for a number of reasons. First, it showed the American public how most prosecutions work. Where the State (or in federal prosecutions) the government, cheats at every opportunity and chance that they get. In this matter, one small example is how the State had evidence, since February 27th, 2012, of Trayvon Martin's cell phone, which contained pictures and text messages that were clearly exculpatory, and didn't turn it over to the Defense until the first week of June, 2013, and then, they didn't provide the defense with the exculpatory evidence. It took a hired expert paid by the Zimmerman defense to go in using highly techincal software and hardware to retrieve these pictures of marijuana; guns and text messages that showed Trayvon Martin championing himself as a "fighter" using MMA style tactics and having recently been involved in a fight prior to the Zimmerman debacle where he was the victim of being on the ground and pummeled, just as Martin did to Zimmerman the night of February 26th, 2012. I had other points I was going to write, but I started this over an hour ago, and have gotten busy here at work. I will follow up later. Good to see you Travis! On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > I found the infomercial of the fat broads in pink tutus dancing in a > circle singing about the virtues of a vacuum cleaner far more interesting > than this entire mess. > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks for sharing this article Michael. As Shafer openly admits, he >> didn't watch the whole trial, (I caught most of it) and I think his >> premise is just a little skewed, but he brings up an excellent point; a >> point that is, (as Plain Ol's calls it) "Spot On". >> >> In my humble opinion, our Nations' States, Counties and municipalities >> all made a grave, serious mistake, like here in Florida, when in 1985 we >> removed the "law" that required and mandated it a citizen's duty to use >> whatever force necessary to resist an illegal or wrongful arrest. >> >> This was replaced with statutes that mandated it was illegal to resist a >> law enforcement officer.....In Florida, the minor infraction is titled: >> "resisting an officer without violence" and the felonious charge is >> captioned: "resisting an officer with violence". Both of these statutes, >> but especially the "without violence" charge are "catch-all" criminal >> infractions and hard to prove against. They should be repealed in every >> jurisdiction, and the old laws that required a citizen to resist illegal >> arrests be reinorporated. >> >> I believe that this is just one more check to balance out overly >> aggressive and errant law enforcement officers. >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:23 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> *What Bothered Me Most About the Zimmerman Trial >>> *Butler Shaffer >>> July 14, 2013 >>> >>> I did not watch the entirety of this trial, but I did watch most of the >>> closing arguments. There was a tone to the prosecution’s summation to the >>> jury that left me with the impression that the core of George Zimmerman’s >>> offense was that he was *not* a police officer. While giving >>> lip-service to the propriety -- even the desirability -- of “neighborhood >>> watch” practices, the state’s prosecutors saw a conflict between ordinary >>> people and “official” police officers doing what Zimmerman did. Toward the >>> end of the state’s summation, it was said that if a person wanted to do >>> what George Zimmerman did “you’d better have one of these” (whereupon a >>> photo of a policeman’s badge was projected onto the screen). >>> >>> What the state was implicitly acknowledging -- whether such was its >>> intent or not -- was the real-world dual standard that operates on the >>> streets of virtually every city in every state: a police officer will >>> almost never be held to account, criminally, for wrongs committed against >>> innocent victims. Take the identical facts in the Zimmerman case and change >>> just one: have George Zimmerman be a city-appointed police officer. Is >>> there anyone so naïve as to believe that his actions would have turned him >>> into a criminal defendant? Would the event have even made it into the >>> media -- apart, perhaps, from a blurb news report on page 23 of the local >>> newspaper? Because the state is defined as a system enjoying a monopoly on >>> the use of violence, its practitioners must be shielded from the >>> consequences of their violent acts. >>> >>> I shall not hold my breath awaiting the media babblers addressing this >>> issue. The institutionalized keepers-of-the-questions-to-be-asked would >>> never be so foolish or careless as to allow such a thought to surface. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. 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