You're an isolationist Plain Ol'.....Plain and simple. This has nothing to do with Ron Paul or Rand Paul, or their foreign policies, some of which I agree, some of which I don't. You are just an isolationist, which is simplistic ridiculous and impossible for a powerful Nation like the United States in the New Millennium to have such foreign policies.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>wrote: > fund your own charities and fight your own wars for oil and israel. > your'e either a peaceful person or on the other side. > > Neoconservative foreign policy is a descendant of so-called Wilsonian > idealism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism_(international_relations)>. > Neoconservatives endorsedemocracy > promotion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_promotion> by > the U.S. and other democracies, based on the claim that they think that > human rights belong to everyone. On domestic > policy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_policy>, > they endorse a welfare state <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state>, > like European and Canadian conservatives and unlike American > conservatives<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States> > . > > Democracy promotion <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_promotion> is > allegedly derived from a belief that freedom is a universal human > right<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_right> and > by opinion polls showing majority support for democracy in countries with > authoritarian regimes. Democracy promotion is said to have another benefit, > in that democracy and responsive government are expected to reduce the > appeal ofIslamism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism>. > Neoconservatives have cited political scientists[*citation > needed<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed> > *] who have argued that democratic regimes are less likely to start wars. > Further, they argue that the lack of freedoms, lack of economic > opportunities, and the lack of secular general education in authoritarian > regimes promotes radicalism and extremism. Consequently, neoconservatives > advocate democracy promotion to regions of the world where it currently > does not prevail, notably the Arab > nations<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world> > , Iran <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran>, communist China and North > Korea <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea>. > > During July 2008 Joe Klein <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Klein> wrote > in TIME <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIME> magazine that today's > neoconservatives are more interested in confronting enemies than in > cultivating friends. He questioned the sincerity of neoconservative > interest in exporting democracy and freedom, saying, *"Neoconservatism in > foreign policy is best described as unilateral bellicosity cloaked in the > utopian rhetoric of freedom and > democracy."*[72]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-72> > > During February 2009 Andrew > Sullivan<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Sullivan> wrote > he no longer took neoconservatism seriously because its basic tenet was > defense of > Israel:[73]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-73> > > The closer you examine it, the clearer it is that neoconservatism, in > large part, is simply about enabling the most irredentist elements in > Israel and sustaining a permanent war against anyone or any country who > disagrees with the Israeli right. That's the conclusion I've been forced to > these last few years. And to insist that America adopt exactly the same > constant-war-as-survival that Israelis have been slowly forced into... But > America is not Israel. And once that distinction is made, much of the > neoconservative ideology collapses. > > > On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:53:29 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > >> You can't be a compassionate human if you turn a blind eye to the >> atrocities going on around the world. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I too am a big fan of Ron and Rand Paul. >>> --- >>> you can't be a Ron or Rand Paul fan and support US intervention in the >>> middle east. >>> >>> On Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:15:59 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>>> I too am a big fan of Ron and Rand Paul. Unlike Assange, I am an >>>> American citizen, and do not believe in treasonous actions against my >>>> homeland. Unlike Rand and Ron Paul, Assange is a treacherous bastard, >>>> and both Rand and Ron Paul, even though branding both Snowden and Assange >>>> the "Messenger" or a "civil disobediant" I would surmise also believes >>>> that in the case of Snowden, he's a traitor. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Bruce Majors <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/**po**litics/2013/08/julian-**assange-** >>>>> backs-ron-and-rand-**paul/<http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/08/julian-assange-backs-ron-and-rand-paul/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/**group** >>>>> /PoliticalForum <http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum> >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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