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As usual, you make an attempt to 'sound' great without ACTUALLY supporting anything OR making any SPECIFIC claims.
We are BACK to the usual fallacy spew ... in hopes SOMETHING might stick somewhere.

From the FIRST link, we have THESE passages:
"The following year, Reagan made one of the greatest ideological about-faces in the history of the presidency, agreeing to a $165 billion bailout of Social Security. In almost every way, the bailout flew in the face of conservative ideology. It dramatically increased payroll taxes on employees and employers, brought a whole new class of recipients--new federal workers--into the system, and, for the first time, taxed Social Security benefits, and did so in the most liberal way: only those of upper-income recipients. (As an added affront to conservatives, the tax wasn't indexed to inflation, meaning that more and more people have gradually had to pay it over time.)"
Not about RAISING INCOME TAXES -- your claim -- but certainly about RAISING TAXES.
As Stockman recalls, "No one was authorized to talk about tax increases on Ronald Reagan's watch, no matter what kind of tax, no matter how justified it was" Yet raising taxes is exactly what Reagan did. He did not always instigate those hikes or agree to them willingly--but he signed off on them. One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year's reduction. (In a bizarre bit of self-deception, Reagan, who never came to terms with this episode of ideological apostasy, persuaded himself that the three-year, $100 billion tax hike--the largest since World War II--was actually "tax reform" that closed loopholes in his earlier cut and therefore didn't count as raising taxes.)
Hmmm ... so if one is FORCED to pay a tax rate of X, but is allowed to DEDUCT J, K and L ... can no longer DEDUCT J, K and L ... is he paying MORE or LESS?
Reagan raised taxes again in 1983 with a gasoline tax and once more in 1984, this time by $50 billion over three years, mainly through closing tax loopholes for business. Despite the fact that such increases were anathema to conservatives--and probably cost Reagan's successor, George H.W. Bush, reelection--Reagan raised taxes a grand total of four times just between 1982-84.
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The historic Tax Reform Act of 1986, though it achieved the supply side goal of lowering individual income tax rates, was a startlingly progressive reform. The plan imposed the largest corporate tax increase in history--an act utterly unimaginable for any conservative to support today. Just two years after declaring, "there is no justification" for taxing corporate income, Reagan raised corporate taxes by $120 billion over five years and closed corporate tax loopholes worth about $300 billion over that same period.

Are you claiming that these legislative efforts were NOT passed? That they simply 'did not occur'?

Do we need to trudge through the other similar recitations of FACTS you want to pretend do not exist?

Regard$,
--MJ

"The Keynesian analysis is so wrong that it is beyond redemption. The one, fundamental change that is needed is its total abandonment."  -- George Reisman, 1996








At 05:59 PM 8/20/2013, you wrote:
How sad.   I at least thought that you would own up to your own posts, and not pull a "LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews" on us......
 
Here's just a few of the posts where you claimed, or posted fictitious "Justin Raimondo/Sheldon Richmond" articles claiming that Reagan raised federal income taxes;  in one of them, you actually had the audacity to say that Reagan increased the federal tax burden by 65 percent, until I posted the actual statistics and then you went into some other various and sundry backtracking chin music:
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/politicalforum/Reagan$27s$20Liberal$20Legacy%7Csort:relevance/politicalforum/uCTbIfjsYEM/zBMuTmq-9jgJ
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/politicalforum/Reagan$27s$20Fraud$20and$20Friedman$27s$20Mistake%7Csort:relevance/politicalforum/xhEYVUmQwgY/JyDRI68JaFEJ
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/politicalforum/Reagan$27s$20Liberal$20Legacy%7Csort:relevance/politicalforum/5a9i2Pe_eok/cYA446kz3lcJ
 
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Here, you make it quite clear that you don't have a clue what the Hell you are talking about, and damn sure never read the Supreme's Opinion which was monumental.  All you could do, is depend upon the thinking heads of Justin Raimondo and Sheldon Richmond:
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/politicalforum/John$20Roberts$2C$20Constitutional$20Traitor$3A$20Chief$20Justice$20Approves$20Obamacare$20Tax$20Mandate$20%7Csort:relevance/politicalforum/WlMd6Z7uZG8/2dwpWQsCwb4J
 
 


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
STILL spewing fallacy -- not to mention the LIES you add to the mix.
I never claimed Reagan raised 'federal income taxes', but you KNOW that. What Robert's fantasies have to do with anything could only be known by you and YES it remains simpler to pretend something is refuted by yelling "Poopeyhead" ... it at least aids in the maintenance of that pleasing vision of yours.
Regard$,
--MJ
"Few people may remember that when Ronald Reagan took office, the federal budget was only $678 billion. During his 8-year tenure, the budget grew by 69%  on its way to today's $2.3 trillion budget.
"The annual average increase in government during Reagan's administration was 6.8%, compared with "big government" Bill Clinton's average annual increase of 3.6%.
"Reagan promised to balance the budget within his first term. Instead, the annual deficit rose from $79 billion to $212 billion in that first term -- and the Reagan years added $1.9 trillion to the federal debt.
"Reagan is known as a tax-cutter, and the term "Reaganomics" implies dramatic cuts in tax rates. But after pushing through a tax cut to be implemented over three years, he cooperated during the second year in the largest tax increase in American history up to that time. The nation's annual tax load increased by 65% during his time in office.
"The Republicans after Nixon could no longer be taken seriously as defenders of fiscal responsibility. That reputation was not deserved anyway. Bipartisan spending became a way of political life on December 8, 1941. But political rhetoric is important, and Republican rhetoric until Nixon was in favor of balanced budgets. Then came his admission of Keynesian views."  -- Gary North



At 05:23 PM 8/20/2013, you wrote:
Hah!  
 
This from a man who has consistently claimed that President Reagan raised the federal income taxes;  and who obviously never read Chief Justice Roberts' Opinion in the Supreme Court's June 2012 Patient Protection & Afordable Care Act....This, coming from an individual who thinks Justin Raimondo is the Political Guru of Foreign Policy, and Sheldon Richmond the High Priest of Fiscal Responsibility.
 
 

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, your endlessly fallacy spews do get old. Apparently they also fool you into believing something was refuted.
Regard$,
--MJ
"One of the painful signs of years of dumbed-down education is how many people are unable to make a coherent argument. They can vent their emotions, question other people's motives, make bold assertions, repeat slogans--anything except reason" -- Thomas Sowell.


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