-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hart [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:14 PM
To: Justin Piszcz
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pool] X9SCM-F-O clock drift +1 second into the future when ntp
running?

> My guess would be the NMEA output is starting relatively late the UTC
> second and continuing into the next second.  Using NMEA from a GPS
> without also using the PPS signal is difficult at best -- you're
> depending on the NMEA emission being consistently offset from UTC,
> which it is not with many receivers.  With some, NMEA timing wander
> hundreds of milliseconds relative to UTC.  If you're lucky and that
> unit has stable NMEA timing, you should be able to fudge it into
> submission.  Try:

fudge 127.127.28.0 time1 -0.985

--


> ntpd doesn't discpline the CMOS clock.  As long as your OS clock runs
> within 500 PPM of nominal, ntpd should manage it.  Errors introduced
> each boot by the wayward CMOS clock will get stepped away early by
> ntpd (or ntpdate, if it's run before ntpd).
OK, thanks.

--

Hi,

I am able to use the GPS (thus far) with that fudge of -0.985 on the
X9SCM-F:

# ntpq -pn
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
*127.127.28.0    .SHM.            0 l    7   16  377    0.000   25.168
51.466
+64.6.144.6      128.252.19.1     2 u   34   64    1   74.498   77.264
69.854
+204.235.61.9    209.51.161.238   2 u   31   64    3   46.668   65.476
67.756
+108.61.73.244   129.7.1.66       2 u   30   64    3   24.246   71.441
68.162
+67.18.187.111   129.7.1.66       2 u    1   64    7   50.851   94.044
89.377

I did see this from the kernel on June 30th (normally it happens on December
31):
Jun 30 19:59:59 atom kernel: [144126.759010] Clock: inserting leap second
23:59:60 UTC
Unsure if this could be causing any issues as this was a recent change.

Here is the ntp output from a Supermicro X8DTH-6F:

$ ntpq -pn
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
+38.109.218.175  192.43.244.18    2 u   25   64    1   57.070   -2.652
2.037
-96.44.157.90    173.244.211.10   3 u   24   64    1   82.532   -9.315
0.635
*205.196.146.72  128.59.39.48     2 u   23   64    1   39.337   -5.478
0.736
+169.229.70.95   128.32.206.55    2 u   22   64    1   84.710   -7.677
0.703

The delay and jitter are very low (with no special fudge time)

Here is the ntp output from an old Dell P733mhz box (no special fudge time):

$ ntpq -pn
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
*66.178.0.74     .GPS.            1 u   70 1024  177   36.040    0.351
1.230
+108.61.73.243   209.51.161.238   2 u 1010 1024  377   29.065   -0.025
0.768
-96.44.157.90    173.244.211.10   3 u 1072 1024  377   93.172   -1.143
0.774
+199.101.103.82  133.243.238.243  2 u  603 1024  377   93.458    2.639
0.588


Some ~5 minutes later, the same system (X9SCM-F)

# ntpq -pn
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
*127.127.28.0    .SHM.            0 l    1   16  377    0.000  285.814
51.660
+64.6.144.6      128.252.19.1     2 u   63   64   77   72.052  316.644
209.681
+204.235.61.9    130.207.244.240  2 u   55   64  177   46.634  308.658
210.028
+108.61.73.244   129.7.1.66       2 u   50   64  177   23.992  318.532
213.599
+67.18.187.111   129.7.1.66       2 u   28   64  377   52.303  336.487
215.653

It is nice I can use the GPS now (thanks!); however, in your opinion could
there be an issue with the clock on this host as the offset+jitter seems
excessively high here?

Justin.

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