Hello, Stephan,

> I've currently read the other answers to your mail,
> regarding java security, but I think this can't be your
> business.  if someone has java installed, he/she is at
> risk, but it's already there and can be used.

There's feedback in the system that I don't see you take
into account.

If you write a Java applet, there will be users that like or
need it.  This will influence them to keep Java installed
and active in their browsers.

> If I'ld ban java from my desktops, I couldn't do my
> job. Every kvm over ipmi and the vast majority of storage
> and switch management comes with korean or chinese signed
> applets, often in broken english.

Exactly.  You prove my point.  :-)


For yet another idea of mine of the "take it or leave it"
variety: If I had to use Java applets as part of my job, I'd
set up a tightly fenced-in browser instance (in some virtual
machine, if needed) and use that for those few occasions,
but still leave Java switched off in the normal browser I
use on the internet.


To act responsibly as a developer, I feel I shouldn't use a
technological basis unless I cannot wholeheartedly recommend
that basis to my users.

Personally, I have earned my living as a Java developer for
some 10+ years now.  That's Java on the server and
Java-Client-inhouse applications.  Java in a general-
purpose, internet-seeing browser I do not recommend.

Regards, Andreas


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