On 29/01/2016 06:27, Hal Murray wrote:

It's probably worth adding some words to the sign-up page requiring
volunteers to promise not to do things like that and some more words on the
how-to-use page mentioning this problem.


I'm not sure that you can impose a promise on someone. You probably could say what constitutes unacceptable behavior and note that doing these activities will result in expulsion from the pool. Definitely add some comments to the how-to-use page that says that if you are trying to conceal your IP address, then don't use the pool, or any other external service.

Having said that, I certainly want to be able to perform many actions with regard to the data that is sent to me. If I choose to block abusive people, that should be allowed. If I decide to do a reverse DNS lookup on every IP address, that should be allowed (note that if the traffic goes through a firewall, then some network management software will do this anyway). If I decide to issue a 'readvar' command to each NTP server that contacts me, then that seems reasonable. If I want to record all the IP addresses that contact me, and publish them on a web page, then that seems reasonable (though somewhat crazy). Note that the observation of the traffic may be done by a firewall, IPS, IDS, etc and need not be the NTP server itself.

I think that exposing multiple IP addresses onto the same NTP server is probably 'cheating', though I'll bet that there are other multi-homed NTP servers out there.

I think that the NTP pool is a classic case of "When something online is free, you're not the customer, you're the product."

http://blogs.harvard.edu/futureoftheinternet/2012/03/21/meme-patrol-when-something-online-is-free-youre-not-the-customer-youre-the-product/

Philip
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