Hi Peter,

Surprisingly (at least to me) I have both GTT (hop 6-7) and NTT (hops 9-10)
in my traceroute:
traceroute to ntplax7.ntppool.net (207.171.3.17), 64 hops max
 1   192.168.133.254 (192.168.133.254)  0.092ms  0.077ms  0.090ms
  2   212.92.16.198 (gw-198-16.92.212.GYR.rev.HU.AHRT.HU)  4.847ms  7.171ms
 2.582ms
  3   212.92.0.241 (212.92.0.241)  0.485ms  0.502ms  0.515ms
  4   87.245.242.202 (ae1-201.RT.DPX.BUD.HU.retn.net)  0.662ms  0.564ms
 0.600ms
  5   87.245.234.49 (et102-6.RT.IRX.FKT.DE.retn.net)  18.076ms  18.181ms
 18.147ms
  6   77.67.123.221 (ae5.cr9-fra2.ip4.gtt.net)  19.110ms  18.359ms
 18.230ms
  7   89.149.130.9 (et-8-1-0.cr2-lax2.ip4.gtt.net)  171.485ms  172.907ms
 171.623ms
  8   199.229.230.234 (te7-2.r02.lax2.phyber.com)  166.303ms  169.642ms
 169.117ms
  9   129.250.3.189 (ae-5.sayonara-jared.r23.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net)
 177.720ms  177.759ms  177.877ms
 10   129.250.4.107 (ae-2.sayonara-jared.r01.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net)
 171.867ms  172.043ms  171.826ms
 11   198.172.90.74 (te7-1.r01.lax2.phyber.com)  175.069ms  175.245ms
 175.127ms
 12   207.171.30.62 (te7-4.r02.lax2.phyber.com)  171.802ms  171.762ms
 171.651ms
 13   207.171.3.17 (ntplax7.ntppool.net)  172.361ms !*  172.345ms !*
 172.283ms !*

Even more surprisingly:
- hop 8  is a phyber.com node: te7-2.r02.lax2.phyber.com. Isn't Phyber the
provider of the monitoring station?

Anyway, I've just set up cron jobs to record traceroute outputs of both
directions. Let's see if I find any changes in routes related matching to
score drops.

Actually running the same traceroute several times after each other, I
could barely see the same output beyond et102-6.RT.IRX.FKT.DE.retn.net
I understand that it is dynamic, but the traceroute from the monitoring
server to my host seems to much more stable.

Regards,
Zsolt

On 25 February 2017 at 15:44, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Zsolt,
>
> It's interesting because I did a traceroute from my network (since my
> recent improvement) and NTT is now gone:
>
> traceroute to ntplax7.ntppool.net (207.171.3.17), 30 hops max, 60 byte
> packets
>  1  82-70-138-65.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.70.138.65)  0.490 ms  0.534 ms
>  0.670 ms
>  2  losubs.subs.dsl4.wh-man.zen.net.uk (62.3.83.6)  13.756 ms  14.752 ms
>  15.580 ms
>  3  ae1-120.cr2.wh-man.zen.net.uk (62.3.86.9)  15.958 ms  16.536 ms
> 17.133
> ms
>  4  ae2-117.cr1-man1.ip4.gtt.net (77.67.66.101)  44.214 ms  18.331 ms
>  44.120 ms
>  5  et-3-1-0.cr2-lax2.ip4.gtt.net (141.136.110.17)  160.481 ms  161.020 ms
>  162.505 ms
>  6  te7-2.r02.lax2.phyber.com (199.229.230.234)  182.805 ms  172.934 ms
>  173.232 ms
>  7  ntplax7.ntppool.net (207.171.3.17)  168.871 ms !X  167.289 ms !X
>  167.810 ms !X
>
> Although the return still does go via NTT
> https://trace.ntppool.org/traceroute/82.70.138.66
>
> The change from NTT to GTT does seem to coincide with the improvement in
> stability. So, they do seem to be a common factor.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Peter.
>
>
> On 24 February 2017 at 07:59, Zsolt Zsiros <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > The dark clouds of "Internet weather" just came over to Mid-Europe:
> > http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/212.92.16.193
> > This server is half ms away from the Budapest Internet Exchange.
> >
> > NTT is also involved:
> > https://trace.ntppool.org/traceroute/212.92.16.193
> >
> > Regards,
> > Zsolt
> >
> >
> > On 23 February 2017 at 23:44, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Can I ask my European fellow home connection folk that posted here to
> > check
> > > their graphs. Mine looks suspiciously more stable since midnight today
> > > (Thursday)
> > >
> > > http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/82.70.138.66
> > >
> > > I'll need to see how it pans out, but certainly looks like there was a
> > very
> > > very sudden change somewhere.
> > >
> > >
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