In the first part of my email I specifically said this report does not unhash any new existing right wing extremist plots that have been uncovered since the new administration took office.
I did not repeat that qualification in my conclusion sentence (which you quoted) because I believed that you would understand it still applied to my overall point. But that's what you get for assuming.... Jarrad Sent from my iPhone On Apr 14, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Lance McCulley <[email protected]> wrote: > Just because they don't give cute acronyms for the specific groups > (neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists) doesn't mean > they weren't being specific. They still named groups, and even those > associated with a particular individual (i.e. Timothy Mc Veigh). It > seems though, that perhaps, the author of this article felt > threatened and that's why he tried to downplay the similarities. > > "If they have specific threats from specific groups with evidence > than lets here it." --Jarrad > > "A militia member in Wyoming was arrested in February 2007 after > communicating his plans to travel to the Mexican border to kill > immigrants > crossing into the United States." > > "In April 2007, six militia members were arrested for various > weapons and > explosives violations. Open source reporting alleged that those > arrested had > discussed and conducted surveillance for a machinegun attack on > Hispanics." > > "In two instances in the run-up to the > election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of > some > threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law > enforcement interceded. " > > Those are all from the report. > > -Lance > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Jarrad Reiner <[email protected]> > wrote: > How is this any different than Bush's DHS Policies? (assuming you > mean past DHS reports on "leftwing extremism"): > > Past DHS and FBI assessments on "left-wing groups" are specific in > identifying the exact groups, causes and the targets of their > terrorism,(ALF, ELF, etc). > This new 9 page lists right wing extremists as those that oppose > Obama on immigration, 2nd amendment and welfare, etc... As well as > those who believe, as many of the founders did, in federalism. This > report is so vague and generalized in does not name one specific > extremist group or even one plot that right wing extremists have > hatched since the new administration. The report actually admits > that threats from these groups "have been rhetorical and have not > indicated plans to carry out violent acts". But of course, the > assessment never names "these groups" or provides any evidence > "these groups" have even been investigated. > > From the Report > > ”right wing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential > administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, includ > ing immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to > minorities, and restrictions on firearms and use.” > > Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into > those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate- > oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic > groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal > authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting > government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals > that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion > or immigration. > > Full Report > > > If they have specific threats from specific groups with evidence > than lets here it. But this report does none of that. Its an > assessment that attempts to label and stereotype conservative > beliefs as being "right wing extremist", much like the recent (and > later redacted) Missouri Law Enforcement Report that those with Ron > Paul bumper stickers maybe "Militia Members" . > > Jarrad > > > > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Lance McCulley wrote: > >> So, the Bush Admin targets hippies and the Obama Admin targets >> hillbillies. Sounds fair and balanced to me. ;-) >> >> On a more serious note, how is this any different than Bush's DHS >> policies? Both policies take away liberties and target specific >> individuals with enough obscurity that the DHS can imprison anyone >> for any period of time without reason. The only 1up for Obama is >> the fact that he can't be charged with the creation of such a large >> government institution. >> >> -Lance >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Jarrad Reiner >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/14/confirme-the-obama-dhs-hit-job-on-conservatives-is-real/ >> >> >> Jarrad >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Politically Opinionated Outspoken People Expounding Religion" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pooper?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
