On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 04:45:58PM +0400, Mike Korbakov wrote:
> 04.08.2013, 13:47, "Landry Breuil" <lan...@rhaalovely.net>:
> > On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:30:10PM +0400, Mike Korbakov wrote:
> >
> >>  03.08.2013, 12:19, "James Griffin" <j...@kontrol.kode5.net>:
> >>>  ================Sat  3.Aug'13 at  6:39:47 +0400, Mike 
> >>> Korbakov================
> >>>>   Hi, ports !
> >>>>
> >>>>   I thought, the purpose of gnome meta-port is to get a fully functional 
> >>>> IDE
> >>>>   by launching installing single package.
> >>>>   But in OpenBSD-5.4 something goes wrong.
> >>>>   I built the system from sources with tag OPENBSD_5_4 and did clean
> >>>>   install on a virtual machine.
> >>>>   GNOME installed by running the following commands:
> >>>>
> >>>>   # cd /usr/ports/meta/gnome
> >>>>   # make run-depends
> >>>>   # make install
> >>>>
> >>>>   After that gdm appeared in system, but not ready to work:
> >>>>
> >>>>   # gdm
> >>>>   gdm[4886]: error getting system bus: Could not connect: No such file 
> >>>> or directory
> >>>>
> >>>>   however, d-bus present in the system:
> >>>  You need to start some daemons by specifying them in /etc/rc.conf.local :
> >>>
> >>>  pkg_scripts="dbus_daemon avahi_daemon avahi_dnsconfd ... "
> >>>
> >>>  It also was necessary to add some lines to ~/.xinitrc/~.xsession :
> >>>
> >>>  # if dbus is installed, start its daemon
> >>>  if test -x /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch -a -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" 
> >>> ; then
> >>>          eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
> >>>  fi
> >>>
> >>>  (although I don't think that bit is required anymore. Not certain
> >>>  though.)
> >>>
> >>>  As others have said, the pkg-readme files explain exactly what you need
> >>>  to set up.
> >>>
> >>>  --
> >>>
> >>>  James Griffin: jmz at kontrol.kode5.net
> >>>
> >>>  A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D  B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38
> >>  Thanks.
> >>  I thought now is little difference between the release and current.
> >>
> >>  "Cheat sheet" from readme was enough to launch d-bus.
> >>  Unfortunately GNOME-3 can't work on VMware and my Asus N55SF laptop,
> >>  because (/var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log):
> >>  "gnome-session-is-accelerated: No hardware 3D support."
> >
> > This is pretty much covered by gnome's README:
> > 'GNOME requires a 3D accelerated display. '
> >
> > Use real HW ?
> 
> I think, running on vmware isn't interesting, but on real laptop is:
> # dmesg
> OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #2: Fri Aug  2 02:11:40 MSK 2013
>     r...@mike-nb2.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
[...]
> Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.
> 
> >>  Given the structure of the /usr/local/share and the number of files in it,
> >>  I would not be surprised if in the next version after installing the 
> >> package
> >>  will receive a link to Google (really you can find the complete answers
> >>  to all questions in the web).
> >>
> >>  I believe that the end of the installation is a good time to show the 
> >> package-readme
> >>  (more suitable occasion I did not come up).
> >>  In any case, it was after installing user should see key information such 
> >> as:
> >>  1. The package is not operational immediately after installation.
> >>  2. The package is unworkable in certain hardware configurations.
> >>  3. ?hanges are required in system configuration files.
> >>  4. Where to read about security considerations and specific 
> >> configurations.
> >>  5. Other unusual specifics...
> >
> > All this is covered by:
> >
> > Look in /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes for extra documentation.
> >
> > Imagine that we'd display the whole readme or dozens of other messages
> > for all packages you've just installed. Would you scroll back through
> > all of it ? no.
> >
> > Landry
> 
> Yes I can't scroll-back 100000 lines, but if they will be 100500 because
> of printed readmes I would not be upset.
> Certainly, readme files must be stored in the system and should be given
> a link to them.
> But:
> # pkg_add gnome
> gnome-3.8.3p0: ok
> Look in /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes for extra documentation.
> sounds like: "read mans, mailing lists, google-it",
> not even written which file or files to be read, and how many.

All of them.

> 
> Folder /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/ contains tens files
> some packages installed by yourself, some were installed automatically,
> the origin of some is unknown to you. 

The origin isn't unknown, the readme files use the name of the package.

>All this took place at different times and you don't remember what
>instructions you have followed and which are not...  For example, I do
>not know from where came postgresql-server, who needs it, and should I

pkg_info -R postgresql-server.

>configure it. I don't know what to do in such situations, not to
>mention KDE, Gnome and Xfce in one system.  OpenBSD will not soon
>become friendly for graphic desktop :(
> 

-- 
Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info

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