On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 12:13:25AM +0400, Mike Korbakov wrote:
> 04.08.2013, 21:31, "Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado" <i...@juanfra.info>:
> > On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 04:45:58PM +0400, Mike Korbakov wrote:
> >
> >> 04.08.2013, 13:47, "Landry Breuil" <lan...@rhaalovely.net>:
> >>> On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:30:10PM +0400, Mike Korbakov wrote:
> >>>> 03.08.2013, 12:19, "James Griffin" <j...@kontrol.kode5.net>:
> >>>>> ================Sat 3.Aug'13 at 6:39:47 +0400, Mike
> >>>>> Korbakov================
> >>>>>> Hi, ports !
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I thought, the purpose of gnome meta-port is to get a fully
> >>>>>> functional IDE
> >>>>>> by launching installing single package.
> >>>>>> But in OpenBSD-5.4 something goes wrong.
> >>>>>> I built the system from sources with tag OPENBSD_5_4 and did clean
> >>>>>> install on a virtual machine.
> >>>>>> GNOME installed by running the following commands:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> # cd /usr/ports/meta/gnome
> >>>>>> # make run-depends
> >>>>>> # make install
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> After that gdm appeared in system, but not ready to work:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> # gdm
> >>>>>> gdm[4886]: error getting system bus: Could not connect: No such
> >>>>>> file or directory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> however, d-bus present in the system:
> >>>>> You need to start some daemons by specifying them in
> >>>>> /etc/rc.conf.local :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> pkg_scripts="dbus_daemon avahi_daemon avahi_dnsconfd ... "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It also was necessary to add some lines to ~/.xinitrc/~.xsession :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # if dbus is installed, start its daemon
> >>>>> if test -x /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch -a -z
> >>>>> "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then
> >>>>> eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
> >>>>> fi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (although I don't think that bit is required anymore. Not certain
> >>>>> though.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As others have said, the pkg-readme files explain exactly what you
> >>>>> need
> >>>>> to set up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> James Griffin: jmz at kontrol.kode5.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> I thought now is little difference between the release and current.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Cheat sheet" from readme was enough to launch d-bus.
> >>>> Unfortunately GNOME-3 can't work on VMware and my Asus N55SF laptop,
> >>>> because (/var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log):
> >>>> "gnome-session-is-accelerated: No hardware 3D support."
> >>> This is pretty much covered by gnome's README:
> >>> 'GNOME requires a 3D accelerated display. '
> >>>
> >>> Use real HW ?
> >> I think, running on vmware isn't interesting, but on real laptop is:
> >> # dmesg
> >> OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #2: Fri Aug 2 02:11:40 MSK 2013
> >> r...@mike-nb2.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.
> >>>> Given the structure of the /usr/local/share and the number of files in
> >>>> it,
> >>>> I would not be surprised if in the next version after installing the
> >>>> package
> >>>> will receive a link to Google (really you can find the complete answers
> >>>> to all questions in the web).
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe that the end of the installation is a good time to show the
> >>>> package-readme
> >>>> (more suitable occasion I did not come up).
> >>>> In any case, it was after installing user should see key information
> >>>> such as:
> >>>> 1. The package is not operational immediately after installation.
> >>>> 2. The package is unworkable in certain hardware configurations.
> >>>> 3. ?hanges are required in system configuration files.
> >>>> 4. Where to read about security considerations and specific
> >>>> configurations.
> >>>> 5. Other unusual specifics...
> >>> All this is covered by:
> >>>
> >>> Look in /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes for extra documentation.
> >>>
> >>> Imagine that we'd display the whole readme or dozens of other messages
> >>> for all packages you've just installed. Would you scroll back through
> >>> all of it ? no.
> >>>
> >>> Landry
> >> Yes I can't scroll-back 100000 lines, but if they will be 100500 because
> >> of printed readmes I would not be upset.
> >> Certainly, readme files must be stored in the system and should be given
> >> a link to them.
> >> But:
> >> # pkg_add gnome
> >> gnome-3.8.3p0: ok
> >> Look in /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes for extra documentation.
> >> sounds like: "read mans, mailing lists, google-it",
> >> not even written which file or files to be read, and how many.
> >
> > All of them.
> >
> >> Folder /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/ contains tens files
> >> some packages installed by yourself, some were installed automatically,
> >> the origin of some is unknown to you.
> >
> > The origin isn't unknown, the readme files use the name of the package.
>
> I'm about packages, not file names.
Me too. Read the mail from Antoine. The readme files are named with this
pattern: ${PREFIX}/share/doc/pkg-readmes/${FULLPKGNAME}. FULLPKGNAME is
the name of the package + the flavor.
i.e. avahi-0.6.31p10 is installed by the package avahi-0.6.31p10,
glib2-2.36.3 by the package glib2-2.36.3 and so on.
>
> >> All this took place at different times and you don't remember what
> >> instructions you have followed and which are not... For example, I do
> >> not know from where came postgresql-server, who needs it, and should I
> >
> > pkg_info -R postgresql-server.
> gives nothing:
> # pkg_info -R postgresql-server
So it's a BUILD_DEPENDS of the package but isn't necessary at runtime.
Run "pkg_delete -a".
You should use only packages. If you really want to use the ports, read
man packages, man ports, man pkg_info, man pkg_add, man pkg_delete and
man bsd.port.mk.
> #
> but:
> # pkg_info postgresql-server
> Information for inst:postgresql-server-9.2.4p2
>
> Comment:
> PostgreSQL RDBMS (server)
> ...
>
> >> configure it. I don't know what to do in such situations, not to
> >> mention KDE, Gnome and Xfce in one system. OpenBSD will not soon
> >> become friendly for graphic desktop :(
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Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
