Hi!

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Mark Goodge <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 09/02/2010 11:53, Thijssen wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:28, Mark Goodge<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But for day-to-day use as a long-term replacement for a desktop
>>> client, or for any user who gets a much larger than normal volume
>>> of mail,
>>
>> What do you mean by that?
>
> Hundreds, or even thousands, of messages a day.

So??  please read on.....

>
>>> it's too lacking in functionality. That's what more full-featured
>>> webmail clients, such as Horde and Roundcube, are trying to
>>> address, albeit at the cost of additional complexity from a
>>> sysadmin perspective.
>>
>> Plus at the cost of speed and responsiveness for the majority of
>> users who don't require fancy features.
>
> Indeed. That's why you have to provide what your users need.
> Squirrelmail suits some users. Roundcube or Horde suit others. There is
> no one size that fits all.

True.  But, what about the users who love "simple things", for
example, I use operamini a lot (on a really old w200 sony ericsson),
and I hate when I can't use a site becuase it use.... flash, ajax, and
those stuff that are just fancy.

>
>> What appears to be the most important complaint I get from users is
>> summed up by this;
>>
>> "I don't care about nice looking buttons or 3D Windows and all that
>> crap, I just want a working and reliable e-mail client. One that
>> doesn't reformat messages. No HTML and no annoying popups."
>>
>> and they all detest Outlook and Outlook Express (and Exchange
>> webmail) as well, so that might illustrate the types of users that
>> prefer Squirrelmail.
>
> Possibly, although there are different reasons for detesting OE and Outlook.
> OE and Outlook are crap desktop clients; most experienced high-volume mail
> users prefer better clients such as Thunderbird. If your users also detest
> Thunderbird, then yes, Squirrelmail is probably right up their street. But
> if they like Thunderbird, then they'll probably find Squirrelmail rather
> limited by comparison.

mmmm... it depends, if you use squirrelmail, you will be able to read
your mail using any phone using operamini, that's a neat feature.

>
>> But saying they don't handle large volumes of
>> mail is a weird assumption to say the least. I'd say the average user
>> box I maintain squirrelmail-thunderbird for recieves about 80 emails
>> daily, and their Mail folders are around 6 GB in size per user.
>
> 80 would be a very low figure for the type of use I'm thinking of. The
> people I know who complain about Squirrelmail's limitations generally get
> several hundred emails a day.

Please, just tell me: what does the volume of mail has to do with the
webmail client? I mean, I could get 1000 mails at once, and squirrel
would just show me the "latest" when I refresh the page: no delays, no
problems, also felamimail (egroupware), and IMP (horde).... so, what
do you want a mail client to do with your 1000's mails? read them for
you and parse them, so that you get the "most important first".... I
mean, there is no web client that do that, and if you really need to
do something like that, use dovecot and sieve!.  Any "client-side"
filtering for 1000's of mails a day, could be slow, unless it is a
desktop client.

Please, refine your point.

>
> Mark
>

Ildefonso

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