Sorry, replying to my self again!

Looks like the LEFT JOIN is working just fine. I was tripped up by the fact that I have previously NULL'd some of the polygons that were invalid and so all their respective points were listed as would be expected. And secondly, by the fact that there are a lot more results that I was expecting, but spot checking a few of the files in ArcExplorer verified the results.

And it looks like this query does not support geomcollection in the distance function, but only fails with some obsure message in the message window of pgadmin3, but if I change the collect() to geomunion() it works, but is much slower than the left join as would be expected.

select file, id, name
  from points
 where distance(the_geom, (select collect(the_geom) from polygons)) > 0.0';

-Steve

Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
Regina,

I think I spoke too soon. On closer inspection of the results it looks like the query is returning all the points in the points table.

select a.file, a.id, a.name
  from points a LEFT JOIN polygons b
    ON (a.the_geom && b.the_geom
        and distance(a.the_geom, b.the_geom) = 0.0)
 where b.the_geom IS NULL

I think this has a logic issue, IF b.the_geom is NULL then the ON clause must also be NULL. Does that work?

I also tried this query, which returned no points:

select file, id, name
  from points
 where distance(the_geom, (select collect(the_geom) from polygons)) > 0.0';

Any thoughts why this does not appear to work?

I'm going to try your other query and see if I get different results with that.

Thanks,
  -Steve

Obe, Regina wrote:
SELECT a.*
FROM point a LEFT JOIN polygons b
    ON (a.the_geom && b.the_geom
    and ST_distance(a.the_geom, b.the_geom) = 0.0)
WHERE b.the_geom IS NULL

or

SELECT a.*
FROM point a LEFT JOIN polygons b
    ON ST_Within(a.the_geom, b.the_geom)
WHERE b.the_geom IS NULL

I think the second one should be more efficient, but I haven't done any
benchmarks.

Hope that helps,
Regina


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Stephen Woodbridge
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:27 PM
To: PostGIS Users Discussion
Subject: [postgis-users] Spatial query Help: points not in set of
polygons

Hi all,

I'm drawing a blank on setting up a query for this.

I have a tables points and a table of polygons. I need to find all the points that are not in any of the polygons.

select a.*
   from points a, polygons b
  where a.the_geom && b.the_geom
    and distance(a.the_geom, b.the_geom) > 0.0;

The problem with this is that if a point is in polygon A it will have a distance to polygon B, so this in no good.

I thought of doing something like:

select * from points
  where distance(the_geom, union((select the_geom from polygons))) >
0.0;

or

select * from points
  where distance(the_geom, collect((select the_geom from polygons))) >
0.0;

So is there a better way to do this. Seems like there should be. If not which of these would you suggest.

Thanks,
   -Steve
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