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On 11/21/03, Ben Kennedy wrote:

>On 21 11 2003 at 11:42 am -0500, tass wrote:
>
>>huh?  More intuitive to have to make multiple key moves than to simply use 
>>the provided keys that are marked to do just those things????  Not sure I 
>>see any logic there.  
>
>I think it takes fewer muscles for me to press cmd-arrow than it does for
>me to move my right hand over to the home key.  Either way, the
>difference is so small it is amusing to argue about.

No argument there.  And more about "taste" than anything.  

>What I meant by intuitive was that using cmd-leftarrow to "go to the
>left" (i.e. "start of the line") makes more sense to me than "home",
>which either means a furnished house, or the upper right corner of a
>screen, or whatever.  And so on.
>
>"Intuitive" is the wrong word, I know.

Ah.  Understood.

>>And it's not the "margins" that "home" and "end" are designed to take you 
>>to.  That's useless.  It's the beginning or the end of the particular
>line of 
>>TEXT as it has been already typed.  This is completely useful.  To get to 
>>the last place I typed, or the beginning of the line I use all the time.  
>>Margins are just limits.  
>
>>Understood.  But until it's explained as such, it does appear random to one 
>>who is used to them taking you to the top and bottom of the ACTUAL page 
>>of text, not the assumed page.  
>
>What is a "page"?
>
>We are not dealing with paper here.  Thus, in the context of text in a
>window, I find it reasonable that a "page" is a "windowful" of text, and
>indeed that's what gets moved when the page-up key his pressed.
>
>What kind of "page" would you like?

Exactly.  Would it be "letter", "legal", Roman scroll, envelope, etc....  
So for me it did/does make sense that in email, "page" would me the 
whole page - top to bottom.  

But I can see too that "screen up/down" could be useful as well.  

Have fun,
ht


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