> I guess I'd like to see just what the Sun folks, and others here, are > looking > at as the main target class: embedded, desktop, or server.
Personally I see 64-bit server class as the direction to go but that will not happen unless we have corporate buy in from various parties. To be practical, there is a new supply ( or at least a new design ) in the works by the Genesi people. They have a new updated version of the EFIKA happening which will have a boatload more RAM. The EFIKA, as I know it, is an absolutely indestructible little embedded solution. It works perfectly and it has a recent OpenFirmware update also. I was as frustrated as all of you with the situation that we have and perhaps the only real solution here is to work together, as a community, to get some sort of hardware solution going that we can all actually work with. Something with all the specs and all the right people in the right place working with a common vision. Yes, we may need to go back to step zero and review a pile of code, again, but at least we will have an ample supply of workable hardware. Forget the Apple stuff. You can not get all the technical specs for it. If you are in love with the Apple hardware then I wish you well and I pat you on the back. Be sure to write a post card from time to time to let us know how you are doing with reverse engineering all those closed design specs. Otherwise, we need to pull together and work with what we have and push forwards in a practical, pragmatic and functional way. I say all of this after spending a few days bootstrapping GCC 4.2.3 on an EFIKA and being just thrilled at how small and functional this thing is : dclarke at vesta:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : G2_LE clock : 396.000000MHz revision : 1.4 (pvr 8082 2014) bogomips : 65.53 timebase : 33000000 platform : Efika machine : EFIKA5K2 CHRP PowerPC System revision : 2B3 vendor : bplan http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/2008-03/msg01254.html http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/efika/efika_004_m.jpg http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/efika/efika_003_m.jpg http://www.powerdeveloper.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10356 It is 32-bit and it isn't perfect but it works hellish well. Also, it is the old unit and the new one will have a boatload more memory. Or at least that is what the rumour mill has to say. Dennis Clarke