lha bahkan iblis pun ciptaan Allah, tetapi kita dilarang menyembah iblis, memuja, dan 
mengikuti ajaran iblis.
 
gay adalah terlarang sejak jaman Nabi Luth A.S., .....jadi setiap Nabi yg diutus Allah 
melarang hubungan sejenis...apa pun alasannya..
 
kalo sekedar ciptaan Allah, lha penjahat pun juga ciptaan Allah... tetapi setiap 
aktivitas kejahatan harus dilawan...
 
demikian menjadi ujian bagi manusia yg bertakwa....
 


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Apakah bukan mahluk ciptaan Alloh?

> 
> Från: partogi samosir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 01:44:26 CET
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> 
> 
> dear all,
> Sikap gereja di Amerika (yang mengesahkan pernikahan sesama jenis dan melantik 
> seorang Gay menjadi pendeta)  semakin menyadarkan kita bahwa 
> Amerika bukan negara Kristen. 
> Semua aksi dan policy Amerika bukan untuk kepentingan Kekristenan, tapi untuk 
> kepentingan Amerika sendiri.
> togi
>  
> dicky riyadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Africans: Pro-Gay U.S. Church Follows New Religion
> 
> Fri Oct 29,11:22 AM ET
> Top Stories - Reuters
> By Dino Mahtani 
> LAGOS (Reuters) - African bishops representing a majority of the world's Anglicans 
> said on Friday North American sections that embrace homosexuality should be seen as 
> following a different religion. 
> 
> The statement by top Anglican clerics at a landmark conference in Nigeria to 
> determine their future marked a growing separation between conservatives and 
> liberals in the 70-million strong church. 
> 
> The bishops told their North American counterparts to repent and ask for forgiveness 
> for approving same-sex marriages and consecrating Gene Robinson, a divorced 
> homosexual and father of two, as a bishop. 
> 
> "Failure to do so would indicate that they have chosen to 'walk alone' and follow 
> another religion," said the statement issued by the senior clerics from across the 
> continent. 
> 
> A report earlier this month by senior Anglican clergy urged North American 
> congregations to ban same-sex marriages and the ordination of gay clergy, but 
> stepped back from an outright condemnation of gays in a bid to reconcile the 
> divisions. 
> 
> But African church leaders said it did not go far enough and accused the North 
> American communions of subverting the faith and imposing a false doctrine. 
> 
> African bishops want their continent to become the new heartland of Anglicanism and 
> Nigerian Primate Peter Akinola, Africa's top cleric, has said the Church of Nigeria 
> aims to set up branches in the United States. 
> 
> Church leaders in Africa fear if Anglicanism fails to take a firm stance on 
> homosexuality, its parishioners -- many of whom are traditionalists who cannot 
> stomach the idea of gay bishops -- will desert it for evangelical churches or Islam. 
> 
> Earlier this week Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo -- a born-again Christian -- 
> backed African bishops in rejecting homosexuality and called gay tendencies 
> "unbiblical, unnatural and definitely un-African." 
> 
> The bishops gathered in Nigeria have said they would not be swayed in their 
> rejection of ordaining gays by the lure of church funds from the liberal West, 
> despite Africa receiving 70 percent of its funds mainly from America. 
> 
> But church leaders say the split between African bishops and their American 
> counterparts is not so much a geographical division as a split between the liberal 
> and conservative wings of the church. 
> 
> Already, conservatives in the same U.S. Episcopal Church that ordained Robinson have 
> called his appointment "schismatic." Many of the more liberal bishops in Africa, 
> particularly from South Africa, have taken a softer approach to gays and have 
> snubbed the conference in Nigeria. 
> 
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