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Dear Pak RG,
you have pointed out the facts..that arrangement of marriage between an
older or elder men and an under age child is exist. it occured mostly in
arabs country, india, and africa (until now)..thanks for that valuable
information, anyway..now days if an older or elder men married an under age
child (in this case 9 years old child)..is against the law..(constitution),
perhaps the countries u had mentioned earlier had applied an ''adat
law''.., even in our country is forbidden..(based on civil act), bcs
morally is not right.., how do you feel if your child an 9 years old child
marry to.. lets say 25 years old men?
is it morally legal.? is it civilised..? and is it Right?..i think deep
inside you know the answer..
btw..it's not abt insulting someone or religion..
RGrds,
Carla
RG Nur Rahmat
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Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet in
Islam!
First of all, it is important to know:
Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no
Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely
practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and
non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the
reason no one objected was to the Prophet's marriage was:
People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live
between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for
girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.
Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and
even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries
today, the Jewish law for marriage sets the age of consent for females at
11. (Consent is only one way of marriage) I do not know if modern Jewish
law still allows (in theory) betrothal by intercourse as it was practiced
in ancient times.
Thirty years ago, the renowned sexologist R.E.L. Masters and Allan Edwardes
said in their study of Afro-Asian sexual expression (_The Cradle of
Erotica_, Julian Press, New York:1962) said, "Today, in many parts of North
Africa, Arabia, and India, girls are wedded and bedded between the ages of
five and nine; and no self-respecting female remains unmarried beyond the
age of puberty."
**** Also, the age consent in the US and Europe only 100 years ago for
girls' marriage was as little as 10, and some popular men figures married
little girls who were as young as their daughters.
Nah, sekarang logiknya dimana kalau hanya bisa menghina?
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logically speaking, the point of view of Charles moore couldn't be blamed
bcs in fact now days if a a men have a sexual contact or married an under
age child (esp a 9 years old girl) is considered paedofillia, bcs there's
no logical explaination a person doing that except he's mentally sick and
have a sexual disorder..(pervert).., anyway, i think Charles moore opinion
based on logic..there's nothing to do with religion or anything..simply
logic..
"Ida Z.A"
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kutipan Dialog Umat Republika.
Mantan editor The Daily Telegraph, Charles Moore, sgt sadar kalau
tulisannya di kolom mingguannya yang berisi satu tudingan: Nabi
Muhammad adalah seorang paedofilia (seorang yg menyukai anak2 dlm
konteks seksual) akan membuat masyarakat muslim inggris marah. Dalam
tulisannya dia mengatakan, Muhammad, yg menikahi gadis berusia 9 th,
dgn segala kelebihan dan kekurangannya tak lebih seorang paedofilia...
(dgn kekurangan pengetahuannya ttg Islam begitulah salah satu cara
org menyudutkan islam).
Protes pertama disampaikan Iqbal Sacranie, sekjen Muslim Council of
Britain, yg mengatakan bahwa ia tidak menyangka bahwa orang seperti
Charles Moore bisa melakukan hal yang begitu HINA.
Iqbal menambahkan: tulisan Moore makin mencerminkan siapa dia
sebenarnya. Dia belakangan memang aktif mengampanyekan penolakan
terhadap rancangan UU terbaru mengenai kerukunan beragama. Karena
kaum muslim Inggris lah yg berada di garis depan mendukung lahirnya
UU tersebut, yang dianggap akan menghentikan segala aksi berbau
kebencian atas dasar agama.....
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