gheet wrote:

> Lars Tunkrans wrote:
>>
>>   I have been working with S10u1 Printers and JDS on Sunrays lately. 
>> Im based in Sweden.
>>
>>  One of my  first issues is  that  every printqueue  and print applet 
>> defaults  to LETTER  paper
>> format.   I cant buy LETTER paperformat here even if I wanted to,  Now 
>> I need to convince every single application and every single  
>> printerqueue that it is supposed to print with A4
>> Paper size.  ( The "-o media=A4"  option to lpadmin  is not even 
>> documented in the man page ) 
> 
>    This is bad. We have this since the day we have product primary 
> market was North America and we suffer here in Europe :). We should 
> really fix this.

The same applies the other other ipp options that can be given to 
'lpadmin' and 'lp' to control a ppd printers output, eg. '-o sides=', 
'-o finishing=', etc., see RFC2911 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2911.txt) 
section 4.2 - 'Job Template Attributes'. But these only apply to 
printers that are configured with foomatics/PPDs.

>>
>>    Can   Paper format  become a  LOCALE   setting  like  LC_MONETARY , 
>> LC_NUMERIC  ?   I need  to set a GLOBAL  Paper FORMAT  variable or  
>> end users  of JDS
>>  will go crazy.  Or maybe  GCONF   can be used to hold a global paper 
>> format variable for GNOME.
> 
> 
>    Another way to fix this is that the applications can find out from 
> the  printers about the type of paper sizes it have in its trays rather 
> than based on a local setting. Based on a locale setting means when you 
> bring your Swedish desktop to the U.S. or your Sun Ray session is 
> remotely directed to a a U.S. office, your paper size still incorrectly 
> set.
> 
>>
>>    What usually happens if you send a print request to a printer with 
>> a paper format request  that the printer cant satisfy , is that the  
>> printer goes offline  and  put's up a meesssage on its
>> display  saying " please load LETTER paper format in tray 1"   and 
>> then an operator needs to abort the printrequest. ( since  we dont 
>> have any LETTER size Paper here )
>> This  will  put users off - big time.
> 
>   Hmm, I thought LP spooler does some kind of e-mail notification to the 
> user. But may be this is not a fatal event that it send out a mail. 
> Wonder whether the e-mail notification can be configured to do so.

On a HP printer if this happens the job will usually print okay on what 
ever paper is loaded if 'continue' is pressed on the printer.

What usually happens is that jobs are sucked into the printer's memory 
okay and solaris lpsched know nothing about the fact that the printer is 
waiting for operator intervention, so no notification is given as it 
thinks is done. If I had a UK pound for the number of times I have 
waited for a print job to come out, before realising it was the wrong 
pager size, I would be a rich man :-)

Paul

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