Some more Comments interspersed.

gheet wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
>     Thanks for this detailed post! Some comments below.
>
> Lars Tunkrans wrote:
>
>>
>>    Can   Paper format  become a  LOCALE   setting  like  LC_MONETARY 
>> , LC_NUMERIC  ?   I need  to set a GLOBAL  Paper FORMAT  variable or  
>> end users  of JDS
>>  will go crazy.  Or maybe  GCONF   can be used to hold a global paper 
>> format variable for GNOME.
>
>    Another way to fix this is that the applications can find out from 
> the  printers about the type of paper sizes it have in its trays 
> rather than based on a local setting. Based on a locale setting means 
> when you bring your Swedish desktop to the U.S. or your Sun Ray 
> session is remotely directed to a a U.S. office, your paper size still 
> incorrectly set.

The Intercontinental printer scenario is going to be very unfrequvent ( 
unless you are working for SUN  :-) )

>
>>
>>    What usually happens if you send a print request to a printer with 
>> a paper format request  that the printer cant satisfy , is that the  
>> printer goes offline  and  put's up a meesssage on its
>> display  saying " please load LETTER paper format in tray 1"   and 
>> then an operator needs to abort the printrequest. ( since  we dont 
>> have any LETTER size Paper here )
>> This  will  put users off - big time.
>
>   Hmm, I thought LP spooler does some kind of e-mail notification to 
> the user. But may be this is not a fatal event that it send out a 
> mail. Wonder whether the e-mail notification can be configured to do so.
>

 Yes you get an email eventually.    But the normal user behavior  is to 
issue the printrequest and then walk down the corridor to the printer
and moan in frustration when it does not appear.  Then all your work 
mates are piling up behind you because they  dont get
their printed docs either  since the printer is waiting for  " please 
load LETTER paper format in tray 1".  Then in frustration the
user is  pulling the plug on the printer and restarting it since he/she 
does not have a clue in how to clear the " please load LETTER paper 
format in tray 1" error. This cycle repeats until the user  finally 
checks the printer prefferences for the selected app and selects A4 
paper size.

All this because we cant preprogram  the whole GNOME environment with a 
paper format.


>>
>> Secondly,  I belive the separation between  the Printer admin tool  
>> and the  tool for manageing the users  spooled printrequests should  
>> stay like it is.  In a Sunray  environment you certainly dont want 
>> any user  creating and deleteing printqueues ,  only the 
>> administrators are to be able to fiddle with the spooler otherwise a
>> huge chaos  would desend  upon us.
>
>   Actually, I like to see all users can add 'access' to an existing 
> print queues to be achieved. Adding new printer queue of course should 
> remain the privilege of the system admin.
>

Yes  Agree !

//Lars

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