Are we all working from the same original facts?  I read the original post to say that 
one entity, a clearinghouse/billingagency/collection agency, was in the vortex of a 
series of transactions and wanted to know if it needed BA agreements with providers 
and payors that it found itself in the middle of -- not that there were 3 separate 
companies.  I apologize if I misinterpreted the back slashes in the post -- but I 
didn't see the question as 3 separate entities asking if each fit the BA definition 
and how..  

Clearly a collection agency working for a payer needs no BA agreement with a provider 
(that isn't its client) and the converse is true as well.  Similarly a medical billing 
company working for a provider is its BA -- but is not a payor's BA because it handles 
an outsource of the provider's insurance billing and follow up functions (which equate 
to "payment" in HIPAA).

To me the results change if you have one entity interchangeably being 
clearinghouse/billing company/collection agency -- performing multiple tasks through 
one corporate entity for the same group of provider and payor clients (e.g., it isn't 
a hybrid, doesn't have separate corporate affiliates...)

Leslie Bender


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From: "Jamelle T. Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:59:30 -0400

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>WE know that a BA relationship exists b/t provider and clearinghouse and
>no BA relationship exists b/t provider and health plan, per regs.  I
>believe that like the provider, no BA relationship would exist b/t the
>clearinghouse and the health plan.  However, I have been known to be
>conservative when designating BAs.  What's your reasoning Leslie?
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>    Jamelle 
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>Jamelle T. Magee, JD
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>Privacy Officer
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>UNC Chapel Hill Student Health Service
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>v. 919.843.2584
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