On Mon, 17 May 2004, Rod Wynne-Powell wrote:
> Subject: Re: [PRODIG] Purple fringing comparisons between cameras

> Hi Tony,
> In the analogue days of film a lens may well have been classified as
> apochromatic, but unless I am much mistaken, the description would have
> been based upon setting these lenses geometry to focus on colour film
> (probably Kodachrome or Ektachrome). The true apochromaticity (my
> extrapolation!) would thus surely have taken into account the different
> depths of the coloured layers in such film when deciding upon the
> focus.

Hi Rod
Yes, I hadn't thought of this, you could be right, although I don't recall
having seen selective depth focussing described in relation to film. I just
reread a paper by Schneider on digital lenses,
http://www.schneideroptics.com/info/white_papers/optics_for_digital_photography.pdf,
and they say (I think about 1998) -

'...we must also take into account that color fringes (resulting from
chromatic aberrations) are of course disturbing (as in classical
photography). The color fringes should be significantly smaller than a pixel
size, which can only be achieved by using top quality lenses made with
special glass having so-called apochromatic (high color correction)
construction. ……..as a result of their (Digitar lens) MTF values and the
apochromatic correction, they are also largely suitable for image sensors of
the next generation.'

This is not to say that bringing three or more spectral areas to a common
focus (apochrom. correction) is now done without selective depth. I just
don't know. I was under the impression that silicon had an inherent change
of colour sensitivity with depth, as exploited by the Foveon Sigma system.

> A modern chip be it CCD or CMOS is essentially one layer deep in terms
> of where it is focussed, which presumably accounts for why
> manufacturers have recomputed lenses for digital capture,

The paper above describes other reasons for recomputing lenses for digital
based on the difference between pixel width and film grain size in relation
to the resolution of the eye.

> In short, I do not see you avoiding chromatic aberration in using a
> C-mount lens from a bygone era, however good it was for film.

Again you could be right. I didn't explain very well, but my search is for
an unfiltered ccd camera with a monochromatic response, on which I can
experiment with my own filters. C mount seems to be the most common
scientific mount, and I thought I could also try some of my apochromatic
lenses, although it is a side issue. I like to fiddle about and try things!

Thanks for your response though.

Tony
www.photosightdesign.co.uk
www.sharpedgegallery.co.uk




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