on 5/10/04 9:19 pm, Bob Marchant wrote: > Hi Martin > On 5 Oct 2004, at 03:15, Martin Orpen wrote: >> >> You should be aware that UK publishing houses and ad agency traffic >> people >> are famed for their ability to judge the quality of a proof without >> even >> looking at the image or colour targets! > > This is now changing with publishers now that several other proofing > vendors have been accredited on the Proof4Press scheme.
And thank goodness for that. DuPont were quick off the mark to get in at the big publishing houses, offering all sorts of press profiling and kit deals so that they could dictate the "standard" that the rest of us would have to work towards. I'd have no problem with it if it was a *genuine* standard - and if I hadn't had spent so much money in the past on Cromalin laminate to help them maintain a dominant position in the analogue proofing market :-| They're using digital technology to follow their old analogue model: it ain't a *good* proof, it's a *known* proof... Just like CP2A and ES96 etc etc. I'd also feel better about using one if the hardware actually turned out a *mechanically* good looking proof. But they're awful. I decided to get an Epson 10000 instead and have since added another two Epson 9600s (one running standard black, the other running matte black). The Digital Cromalin doesn't get anywhere near close to the quality you get out of those beasts. >> They open the package, flip the proof over and check what's on the >> back. If >> it says "Digital Cromalin" or "Cromalin WaterProof" the job is passed >> without question. > >> >> If it says "Epson" or, heaven forbid, there's nothing printed on the >> back - >> the proof is "highly questionable" and likely to be rejected. > > We've had some success in the past with the Epson DuPont proofing paper > using an inkjet. It's survived several 'turnover' tests thanks to the > legend on the back :-) . I was tempted to profile that stock because I had a few packs left over when we ditched our Epson 5000s a few years back. But then thought better of it and binned the lot. >> Rumour has it that there is at least one UK printer who overprints a >> certain >> "logo" on the reverse of their Epson 10000 proofs... > > Remarkably similar to those who used to produce a pile of blank ,all > but for the density strip, sheets of analogue digital media and add the > pictures later. I would have bought some if it was available for Cromalin! Those Brunner strips were a PITA and more often than not the operator would put one of them on the wrong way round (usually yellow or black) and you'd have to start again :-( I'm still not sure if the people we sent the proofs to actually knew how to interpret the strips? -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd -- The Image Specialists http://www.idea-digital.com =============================================================== GO TO http://www.prodig.org for ~ GUIDELINES ~ un/SUBSCRIBING ~ ITEMS for SALE
