As an alternative view, maybe that’s part of the reason they’re willing to give 
us money!

Dan Covill

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Fred Taylor <fbtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think it's a shared universal pain for us developers.
> 
> Fred
> 
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Bob Lee <b...@1amsoftware.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ken.. I live this life.. every single day.
>> I feel your pain..
>> 
>> Bob Lee
>> 
>> 
>> Even when they are looking for help from the computer, it's pretty rare
>> that
>> they are able or willing to take the time necessary to carry out the ideal
>> full-blown "user story" planning and design process. I am sometimes forced
>> to take vague concepts and try to develop workable implementations. Unlike
>> an independent programming consultant who is selling a service, I can't
>> tell
>> them, "my way or the highway".
>> 


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