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~ Major General Smedley Butler, USMC, 1933 Two-time recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor On 11/30/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can see that you have very few friends.. > If I had some buddies on a helo that went down and I saw even one person > performing what I consider an atrocity on one of the helo personnel, I > would > personally machine gun evertything within 1,000 yards to make sure that no > harm came to them. > > > Virgil Bierschwale > http://www.tccutlery.com > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Helio W. > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Colateral damage of no importance? > > Virgil, > > I don't know about you, but I don't think the insurgents had a TANK on > that > roof. > > Perhaps the insurgent were using small-arms, perhaps even some RPG-7. You > could try to use similar firepower to kill them. Perhaps you could use > some > snipers (I read every army unit has snipers nowadays, you know, URBAN > COMBAT). > > On the other hand sure you could completely disregard human life and fire > TANK ROUNDS on the house. "Damn they're all savages", right? > > Probably you didn't watch that video Iraq: The Hidden Story, but they > showed > a US Army Kiowa helicopter firing on a civilian crowd which had gathered > near a wrecked US armored vehicle. War situation? Yes. Combat situation? > No. > > > In Somalia (yeah, read about the events leading to the "Blackhawk down" > story ), the US forces wanted to nail a local warchief/leader. > Intelligence > showed he would participate in a meeting in a certain building. But it > was > a local community meeting where most of the people would be civilians, > local > leaders, etc. What did the US military do? They fired missiles on the > building, killing and maiming many people, before a Delta Team went in to > grab the guy if alive. You see? Want to grab or kill a CRIMINAL but kill > innocents in the process, showing complete disregard for human life. No > wonder local people started to hate americans by that time (US Marines had > been there before and reportedly were well liked by local population). War > situation? Hmm, yeah, probably. Combat situation? No. > This incident was told in the "Blackhawk Down" book, which is not an > anti-american book, on the contrary (an excellent reading by the way). > > There's a hilarious scene in the satire movie "Team America World Police" > where the good guys destroy all Paris while trying to stop terrorists. > Then > they wonder why the local population hates then. While the movie is > ridiculous (and outrageously funny), I bet those movie makers are not > simple > minded guys. > > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And I suppose YOU would be able to respond to the terrorists fire > > without harming civilians located in the same building ? > > So, fess up... > > Just how would you perform this magnificient surgical strike ? > > > > > > Virgil Bierschwale > > http://www.tccutlery.com > > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Helio W. > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:47 PM > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: [OT] Colateral damage of no importance? > > > > Five girls killed in Iraqi clash > > > > > > Five young girls have been killed in Iraq during a clash between US > > marines and insurgents in the western city of Ramadi, the US has said. > > > > A US military statement said militants on the roof of a house had > > fired on its forces, who responded with tank fire. > > It said soldiers searching the building found the bodies of one man > > and the five girls, one of whom was an infant. > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6193620.stm > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > --- > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
