NRA isn't an "arms dealing" group. WE promote gun safety and protection of
the family.

John

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john harvey wrote:
> I would blame them all. 
> 

So you would blame the arms dealers. That would suggest you are against
the NRA. Is that so?

> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Ricardo Aráoz
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> 
> I think Evo Morales (elected president of Bolivia for the ignorant half
> of the list) would passionately agree with this, he's probably
> considering affiliation to the NRA. He reasons that if you consider that
> guns don't kill people, that people kill people, then all of you would
> agree that drugs don't kill people, the person who introduces the drug
> into the body kills them (it would mostly be suicide). So why blame the
> producer of coke leaves, or the chemist who obtains cocaine, or the poor
> arms dealer... sorry, drug dealer who sells them. We should only blame
> the person who uses or administers drugs (doctors beware!).
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> If he hates the bearing of arms, he's really going to
>> hate the anti-abortion amendment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:23 PM, David Crooks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How can anyone prove that???  Did they have the
>>> same thermometers 200
>>>>> years ago that are in use today???  There is no
>>> way!!!
>>>>>> Some global warming.
>>>>> I agree. I was cold in Albany, NY 200 years ago
>>> and guess what?   
>>>>> It is
>>>>> still cold in Albany, NY. LOL!
>>>>    I love how some people only read half of
>>> something. They see a term
>>>> such as "global warming" and completely miss the
>>> 'global' part of it.
>>>> Sort of like the same brilliant minds who read the
>>> 2nd Amendment as
>>>> guaranteeing the unfettered right to keep and bear
>>> arms, completely
>>>> missing the "well-regulated militia" part.
>>> Or how some people read the whole part of something,
>>> entirely out of  
>>> context.
>>>
>>> The purpose of the 'well-regulated militia' was to
>>> protect the people  
>>> from an oppressive government, and was not intended
>>> to establish a  
>>> particular "well-regulated militia", as some seem
>>> curiously to argue.  
>>> Rather, by making the right to keep and bear arms
>>> universal to all  
>>> citizens in the Bill of Rights, and not just to some
>>> special  
>>> "militia" class, this formulation allowed for the
>>> people to self- 
>>> organize into "well-regulated" militia as needed to
>>> defend themselves  
>>> from tyranny. In general, our founders were into
>>> "self- 
>>> regulation" (particularly of the small-r
>>> "republican" variety), not  
>>> nanny government.
>>>
>>> The enhancements to the federal power and
>>> consolidation under a  
>>> single federal government under the Constitution was
>>> an economic  
>>> necessity. Nevertheless, the founders still saw fit
>>> to guarantee each  
>>> state in the union a "republican" form of
>>> government, and each  
>>> citizen a right to keep and bear arms. They hardly
>>> envisioned the  
>>> federal government confiscating guns from everyone
>>> except the police  
>>> or army. Maybe one or two of them thought that was a
>>> good idea (after  
>>> all, they did discuss the various alternatives, and
>>> even my hero  
>>> Hamilton had a brain fart about re-establishing
>>> monarchy), but the  
>>> consensus was to state explicitly a right to keep an
>>> bear arms to  
>>> all, and the reason sited was not just so the
>>> government could  
>>> regulate some once and future national guard or
>>> whatever, but rather  
>>> because an oppressive government could only be
>>> countered by a people  
>>> armed to defend themselves.
>>>
>>> Context Ed is just as important as the precise
>>> wording of a phrase.
>>>
>>> - Bob
>>>
>>>> -- Ed Leafe
>>>> -- http://leafe.com
>>>> -- http://dabodev.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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