> >> Which gets back to my original question: How do you define victory? > > > > > > There will be no 'victory'. That was the wrong frame of reference all > > along. > > > > If you really want an answer, then change the frame of reference and
> > talk about pursuing justice, not victory, and then finally we can make > > some progress. > Justice is self determination. Or do you disagree with your > patriots who fought the Brits? Ricardo, no offense intended, but I think that's more of a knee-jerk response then you're capable of. Here's a one page essay where "Plato is able to achieve an answer to the question, what is justice" that I'd ask you to consider: http://www.freeessays.cc/db/18/eft49.shtml Bill _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.