On 6/7/07, Derek Kalweit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Microsoft set Windows development back ten years with DotNet.
> Please, Ted-- tell us what Windows development SHOULD be right now. > How did Dotnet set it 'back'? Derek: You really do need a good answer to this question, but I'm under deadline on a couple of projects, and might not get back to this right away, but here's a nutshell answer you can take potshots at: Windows development should have plowed ahead with VB 7, 8, and 9. ASP.NET should have been released as ASP2 to give web developers a chance to keep up with the other web development stuff while MSFT reprised the learning curve of developing .NET into a stable, mature and powerful framework. It was enormous gaul on the part of MS to cut off the majority of its (customer's) toolkit and replace it with a 1.0 product. It showed a lack of appreciation for what real developers (and by that I mean you and I) do with MS' tools in the field. It showed a lack of respect and understanding for the crafts of programming and application development. MS should have sucked it up and run .NET in parallel to its offerings, like Sprite and Coke, and learned from its customers what the adoption curve should be. > Have you looked at .NET? Nearly five years ago, a few of us hung out in Redmond and discussed it in some depth: http://www.tedroche.com/images/RedmondJuly2002.jpg >For once, access to core libraries are > somewhat standardized versus the mish-mash of win32 API's that we have > dealt with for years. Unquestionably, great goals, good design, and fair implementation for a first, second and third try, so far. They're getting towards a great product. > Please, tell me where the setback is and The setback is that huge amounts of time and effort have been spent on learning MS' beta. Now that the production version is within sight, the slideshows that Microsoft subjected us to in DevCon Miami (in 2000!) are pretty irrelevant. > where we SHOULD be going > today(in 'Windows development' as you put it)? That's the question that started this thread, isn't it? "Where do you want to go today?" (tm) -- Ted "mmm. warm flames." Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.