Can't the basics to which you referred be learned within the framework, 
or as a subset of the languages used by the framework?  For example 
perl, python, php, java, c#, or pick your own.

Regards,

LelandJ


Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>
>   
>> Someone just getting started in programming today has a lot to learn,
>> and the best way I know to put someone on the right path is with a
>> structured approach that covers the basic five things I mentioned.
>>     
>
>       Not necessarily. It is way too easy to confuse and overwhelm someone  
> by throwing too much at them at once. You learn math by adding,  
> counting, etc., before you even are exposed to things such as  
> multiplication and division, which, while certainly critical for  
> anyone to be considered mathematically literate, are simply too  
> complex until one grasps the basics.
>
>       Learn condtionals. Learn looping. Learn variables. Learn procedures/ 
> subroutines. Then once you have those things down and are comfortable  
> with them, you can begin to get into more advanced concepts such as  
> version control, packaging, etc.
>
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
>
>
>
>
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