>If your morality is based on a reward system it doesn't have much
>value in the end.
>After all one does train dogs that way.

Jean,

That shows more about your view of man... that he is simply trainable as an 
animal... kind of Darwinistic I would say.  

Some of us have a higher view... one that says he can respond to concepts such 
as right and wrong that are higher than his own well being.  Your view shows 
only that he will act on what he sees as his own best interest... not respond 
to the abstract of right.  Just because we imperfect humans don't always get it 
right does not give you the right to say it's all contrived.

--
Larry Miller 

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