Gil Hale wrote: >> Is MS still relevant? > > Unfortunately, yes. But on a brighter note, a little less so than before > due to FireFox, Mac and Linux eating (nibbling) out of its trough. > > The other day I was chatting with an associate who has been a True Blue M$ > fan for years. He makes a great living setting up, configuring, upgrading, > etc., anything and everything M$. He made the mistake of asking me how I > like MS Server 2008. "I don't really know how I like it. I am not running > it, and don't plan to.", I replied. > > I was expecting him to get all over me, but instead he asked what I am doing > for Servers. I told him I still have a few Server 2003 machines, but have > cut to Linux, first Suse Server, then Ubuntu Server. He was intrigued as to > why I made that move, so I told him it was not so much the money (MSDN ISV > takes a major part of the sting out there), but more the lack of solution > value when I look at Ubuntu Linux that prevents me from staying with M$ > Server OS solutions. > > Surprisingly he told me the M$ license fees to himself and his clients are > getting ridiculously high, and has actually been looking to look at Linux > for File, Web, & eMail Server purposes for himself and clients. He has been > losing bids to other folks who are using Linux for Servers (mostly, not so > much desktops yet). He is looking at doing the same thing just to get his > pricing competitive by knocking out M$ Server OS expenses. In the past he > could have avoided making this move, but now things are tight and it is > coming down to business survival. > > I did an Info Dump on him (poor bastard), and for once I actually blazed a > trail for him to follow me (Linux), instead of the other way around. He may > "only" support about 80 small businesses, but if he is looking for > alternative solutions to reduce pricing for client projects, then others > are/will also. A lot of little nibbles can quickly lead to "Death By 1,000 > Cuts" <g>... Not that I want to see M$ crash and burn (it does that by > itself very nicely already <g>), but I think it is time for M$ to get set > back a few notches with their Greed Grab (yeah, I am still bitter re: the > Terminal Server CAL "duplicate" license fees). > > BTW, have I told y'all how much I like my Ubuntu Linux Sever lately? > heh-heh... >
:-) BTW Gil, I used to have a Debian desktop machine a couple of years ago. Reading your Ubuntu ads :) I downloaded a copy of KUbuntu (sorry, I really like KDE better) and used it as a boot CD, problem is it didn't detect my Wi-Fi connection. Back to W$, google, but the answers all require downloading stuff and I have no internet access from Kubuntu. I know I could find out where to get the packages, download them from W$, put them where I can get to them from KUbuntu and then install them from disk. But it sounds too complicated and all I want is a taste of how it would work (yes, internet access is an important part of the taste, I want to see what I have available for easy installation etc.). Soooo... do you know of any easier workarounds? TIA _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
