The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel 
while we stand by and let it happen.

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Barack Obama Antichrist gear

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work
> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 3:37 PM
> The problems facing SS and Medicare are very fixable and, no
> doubt, will 
> eventually be address, after addressing the more pressing
> problem facing 
> the presidential candidates right now, which is the
> economy.  Next, 
> something must be done to balance government spending with
> government 
> revenues to stop the annual deficit, which is feeding an
> ever growing 
> national debt.  Social Security and Medicare can be fixed,
> but not if 
> the USA government goes bankrupt.  LOL
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> > That an interesting question.  So far as I know, there
> has been no plan 
> > to change the method used to collect the social
> security and Medicare 
> > payroll taxes from the employee/employer.  The tax
> will be deducted form 
> > the employees payroll checks based on current rates
> with matching money 
> > coming from the employer.
> >
> > The greater question is what liability exists under SS
> and Medicare 
> > based on promises under the plan, and to what extent
> have the 
> > promises/liabilities been funded?  I don't have
> that information handy, 
> > but I don't think the Social Security trust fund
> is fully funded, and 
> > their may be a need to increase payroll taxes or
> reduce the promises 
> > under the plan.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > LelandJ
> >
> >
> > Michael Madigan wrote:
> >   
> >> Exactly, so does his plan do it?
> >>
> >> ************************************************* 
> >> Barack Obama Antichrist gear
> >>
> >> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >>     
> >>> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution
> plan at work
> >>> To: "ProFox Email List"
> <profox@leafe.com>
> >>> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:54 PM
> >>> The payroll tax is to fund the worker's
> social security
> >>> for his 
> >>> retirement.  The money paid into SS is owned
> by the payer,
> >>> and should 
> >>> not be used to fund government.  The
> government is a
> >>> trustee of Social 
> >>> Security fund with a fiduciary responsibility
> to manage the
> >>> funds until 
> >>> they are needed by the individual upon
> retirement.  It is a
> >>> bad idea to 
> >>> commingle income taxes money with Social
> Security trust
> >>> funds.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> LelandJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>> They are taking federal tax money from the
> middle
> >>>>       
> >>>>         
> >>> class and giving it to people who pay no
> federal tax. 
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>> why don't they just lower the payroll
> tax?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> ************************************************* 
> >>>> Barack Obama Antichrist gear
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson,
> CPA
> >>>>       
> >>>>         
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>   
> >>>>       
> >>>>         
> >>>>> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's
> redistribution plan
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> at work
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> <profox@leafe.com>
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:32
> PM
> >>>>> Really?  If I didn't know you to
> be fair and
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> honest, I
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> would have 
> >>>>> mistakenly thought you a shadowy smear
> monger
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> deliberately
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> pushing a 
> >>>>> misleading rumor about Barack's
> tax policies
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> with the
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> intention of 
> >>>>> manipulating voters.  LOL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #--------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Obama and Biden will cut income taxes
> by $1,000
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> for working
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> families to 
> >>>>> offset the payroll tax they pay.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     * *Provide a Tax Cut for Working
> Families:*
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> Obama and
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> Biden will
> >>>>>       restore fairness to the tax code
> and provide
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> 150
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> million workers
> >>>>>       the tax relief they need. Obama
> and Biden
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> will create
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> a new
> >>>>>       "Making Work Pay" tax
> credit of up
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> to $500
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> per person, or $1,000
> >>>>>       per working family. The
> "Making Work
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> Pay"
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> tax credit will
> >>>>>       completely eliminate income
> taxes for 10
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> million
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> Americans.
> >>>>>     * *Eliminate Income Taxes for
> Seniors Making
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> Less than
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> $50,000:*
> >>>>>       Barack Obama will eliminate all
> income
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> taxation of
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> seniors making
> >>>>>       less than $50,000 per year. This
> proposal
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> will
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> eliminate income
> >>>>>       taxes for 7 million seniors and
> provide
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> these seniors
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> with an
> >>>>>       average savings of $1,400 each
> year. Under
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> the
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> Obama-Biden plan,
> >>>>>       27 million American seniors will
> also not
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> need to
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> file an income
> >>>>>       tax return.
> >>>>>     * *Simplify Tax Filings for Middle
> Class
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> Americans:*
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> Obama and Biden
> >>>>>       will dramatically simplify tax
> filings so
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> that
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> millions of
> >>>>>       Americans will be able to do
> their taxes in
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> less than
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> five
> >>>>>       minutes. Obama and Biden will
> ensure that
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> the IRS
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> uses the
> >>>>>       information it already gets from
> banks and
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> employers
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> to give
> >>>>>       taxpayers the option of
> pre-filled tax forms
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> to
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> verify, sign and
> >>>>>       return. Experts estimate that
> the
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> Obama-Biden
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> proposal will save
> >>>>>       Americans up to 200 million
> total hours of
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> work and
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> aggravation
> >>>>>       and up to $2 billion in tax
> preparer fees.
> >>>>>     * Obama will cut income taxes on
> 95% of
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> taxpayers, (eg
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> those with
> >>>>>       incomes below $250,000.00.  His
> take
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> policies are
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> geared towards
> >>>>>       helping the working middle
> class, as
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> management, CEO,
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> wealthy
> >>>>>       individuals, and big
> corporations can pretty
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>> well
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>> take care of
> >>>>>       themselves.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #----------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LelandJ
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Pay attention.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Obama plan is to raise the
> rates on the
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>>             
> >>> upper
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> middle-class and then send a check to
> someone who
> >>>>> doesn't pay any federal taxes.
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> That's not a prgressive tax,
> that's a
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> redistribution of income.
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>
> ************************************************* 
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>> Barack Obama Antichrist gear
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F.
> Jackson, CPA
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>   
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> redistribution plan
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> at work
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> To: "ProFox Email
> List"
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> <profox@leafe.com>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> Date: Sunday, November 2,
> 2008, 2:08 PM
> >>>>>>> A progressive income tax is
> not really
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> giving my
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> money away
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> to someone 
> >>>>>>> else.  Its about how much each
> person pays
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> in
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> income tax
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> for government 
> >>>>>>> services received.  Under a
> progressive
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> income
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> tax, the
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> greater my 
> >>>>>>> income, the greater my
> contribution to the
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> government, but
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> then the 
> >>>>>>> greater my income, the greater
> the value
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> of the
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> government
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> services I 
> >>>>>>> receive.  This is only fair;
> since, the
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> wealthiest
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>> individual receive 
> >>>>>>> more benefits from the
> government, than
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> say
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> someone working
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> for a 
> >>>>>>> minimum wage that really
> doesn't have
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> that
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> much to
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> lose.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've heard a lot of
> bitching and
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> complaining
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> about how
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> complex and 
> >>>>>>> taxing the current system is
> with many
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> calling for
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> a flat
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> tax where 
> >>>>>>> everybody pay a flat
> percentage of their
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> income to
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> Uncle
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> Sam.  The 
> >>>>>>> amount of tax paid under a
> flat tax
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> increases as
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> the income
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> level of the 
> >>>>>>> individual increases, but the
> rate of tax
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> remain
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> the same
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> based on the 
> >>>>>>> tax as a percentage of income.
>  Well,
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> let's
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> really make
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> thing simple and 
> >>>>>>> have everyone pay a flat
> $1,000 tax;
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> period.  Now
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>> wouldn't that be 
> >>>>>>> simple.  There wouldn't
> even be a need
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> to file
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> an
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> income tax return; 
> >>>>>>> since, the amount of income a
> person
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> earned would
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> not be
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> relevant to the 
> >>>>>>> tax calculation.  Under such a
> tax, the
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> homeless
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> guy who
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> has zero income 
> >>>>>>> and Bill Gates who earns
> billions would
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> both be
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> required to
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> pay $1,000 
> >>>>>>> in taxes.   With something
> over 300
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> million people
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> in the
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> USA, this 
> >>>>>>> would theoretically bring in
> about 3
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> trillion in
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> tax
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> revenue each year.  
> >>>>>>> See how simple it gets. 
> However, is a
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> flat amount
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> tax
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> fair?  I'll 
> >>>>>>> answer my own question. 
> It's not only
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> unfair,
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> it not a
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> viable system 
> >>>>>>> and would quickly wreck our
> economy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Although a flat rate tax as a
> percentage
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> of income
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> is not
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> as extreme as 
> >>>>>>> a flat amount tax, they are
> both unfair
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> and
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> difficult to
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> administer; 
> >>>>>>> because, people in different
> income level
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> have
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> very
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> different needs.  I 
> >>>>>>> suppose an entire book could
> be written on
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> this
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> subject,
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> including the 
> >>>>>>> concept of diminishing return
> as it
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> applies to
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> income
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> level, but I don't 
> >>>>>>> have time to get into that
> today, but
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> saying
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> Senator
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> Obama's tax plan is 
> >>>>>>> a tax give of anyones income
> by government
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> distribution is
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> not true.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The progressive tax system in
> the USA has
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> served
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> Americans
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> well over 
> >>>>>>> many, many, year, so why
> change a good
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> thing.  The
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> Bush
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> Administration 
> >>>>>>> change in tax policy adversely
> affected
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> the USA
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> economy to
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> the point 
> >>>>>>> that America is now in a
> recession, and
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> the Bush
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> tax
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> changes resulted in 
> >>>>>>> a economic stimulus package to
> returned
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> millions
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> of income
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> tax dollars 
> >>>>>>> back to the American people,
> so they had
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> enough
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> reward in
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> the GDP to 
> >>>>>>> participate by consuming some
> of the
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> products they
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> labored
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> so hard to 
> >>>>>>> produce.  Remember, the
> American consumer
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> helps
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> drive the
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> economy, and 
> >>>>>>> helps to create the wealth
> held in the
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> hand of big
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>> Corporations, 
> >>>>>>> management, and super wealthy
> individuals,
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> and the
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> bulk of
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> consumption 
> >>>>>>> of good is service takes place
> by middle
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> income
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> folks.  LOL
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>  Senator 
> >>>>>>> Obama's suggested tax
> policy is just
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> to return
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> the tax
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> system back to a 
> >>>>>>> point where it is balanced and
> functioning
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> again.
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LelandJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John wrote:
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> No kidding today on my way
> to lunch I
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> passed a
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> homeless guy with a sign that
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> read 'Vote Obama, I
> need the
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> money.' I
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> laughed.
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> I got into the restaurant
> and again no
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> kidding
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> my
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> server had on a 'Obama
> 08'
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> tie, again I laughed as he
> had given
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> away his
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> political preference--just
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> imagine the coincidence.
> >>>>>>>> When the bill came I
> decided not to
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> tip the
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> server and
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> explained to him that
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> I was exploring the Obama
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> redistribution of
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> wealth
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> concept. He stood there
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> disbelief while I told him
> that I was
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> going to
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> redistribute his tip to
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> someone who I deemed more
> in need--the
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> homeless guy
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> outside. The server
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> angrily stormed from my
> sight.
> >>>>>>>> I went outside, gave the
> homeless guy
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> $10 and
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> told him
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> to thank the server
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> inside as I 've
> decided he could
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> use the
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> money
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> more. The homeless guy was
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> grateful.
> >>>>>>>> At the end of my rather
> unscientific
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> redistribution
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> experiment I realized
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> the homeless guy was
> grateful for the
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> money he
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> did not
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> earn, but the waiter
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> was pretty angry that I
> gave away the
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> money he
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> did
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> earn even though the
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> actual recipient needed
> money more.
> >>>>>>>> I guess redistribution of
> wealth is an
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>> easier
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> thing to
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> swallow in concept
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> than in practical
> application.
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> You might try this
> experiment yourself
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>                 
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