You are assuming that the car producing nations all run according to
national interests. No, they run on commercial interests, if you walk
down the streets of Havana you will see plenty of non US cars despite
governments opposing links with Cuba. The same in the 80's in South
Africa etc. Where there is a buck there will be someone selling....

If I walk down the road here the buses are made in Italy, the trams are
from Germany, most of the cars are from Asia, a sizeable minority from
Europe, BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen, the occasional Porsche. That there is
no major automotive production is not a problem. The US should
concentrate on what it's good at... in all reality compared to a BMW,
Lexus etc automobiles in general are not one of them despite Mr Ford...

As an aside though I have a nice Mustang Convertible in the UK but
that's almost 42 years old now well looked after in my absence and
probably the last good car to come out of Ford...







-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Leland Jackson
Sent: 04 December 2008 20:50
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Leland! Drive this!

The economy is increasingly 
becoming a global market, so looking at individual national economies is

not as relevant as looking at the world economy as a whole.

Still, there could be conflicts within the world, and an embargo by the 
auto producing nations could be used as a tool to punish the USA.  I'ts 
hard for me to picture any country as a power and leader in the 
international community, if the country lacked a vibrant, forceful auto 
industry.  I believe the USA's auto industry should be assisted through 
this current crisis in ways where they would emerge as strong global 
competitors somewhere down the road.

Regards,

LelandJ



MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> Leland Jackson wrote:
>   
>> The crisis in the financial and housing sectors of the US economy has
>> put many projects on hold or out of business.  Even the big three US
>> Automotive companies and struggling to survive, and they know plenty
>> about making cars.  Also, T-bone (eg T boone) Pickens was forced to
put
>> his wind energy project with a switch to natural gas transportation
on
>> hold.  He couldn't raise the capital needed to go forward with his
plans
>> at this time.
>>
>> I'm perfectly happy with my TDI VW Jetta Wagon, even with the price
of
>> gasoline way down.  It would probably be best to get GM, Ford, and
>> Chrysler back on the path to building clean, efficient, reliable
>> transportation; before, all their auto worker end up making Toyota,
>> Hondas and VWs, LOL which could present a security problem almost a
>> great as US dependence on foreign pretroleum.
>>     
>
>
> I see the logic and think of Rick Wagoner (GM) saying "It's very
> important for the U.S. to have a home team in this global auto
> industry." in an article online today.  Still, I can't help but feel
> this is bullshit.  Japan is a key, strategic ally.  Their cars run
> better, cost less often, and even have a lower TCO when you add up all
> the repair costs because they're a zillion times more reliable than
the
> US cars.  To support the US auto-industry might sound like the right
> thing to do using Wagoner's logic, but unless they change, it's merely
a
> welfare handout for substandard quality, imo.
>
>
>
>
>
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