It's a Holden HSV Monaro over here. It is one of the very few exports to your country. Nice car but not my scene. My FPV-GT is my first high-performance car and I am enjoying it.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland Jackson Sent: Friday, 5 December 2008 9:01 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Leland! Drive this! Made in Australia is a little surprising. I'm no longer interested in fast, powerful cars, as my street racing, girl chasing days are long over. I'm very happy with my current transportation, a 2005 VW Jetta Wagon GLS with a 1.9 TDI engine. LOL Regards, LelandJ Geoff Flight wrote: > << The fastest car I've ever owned was a 1964 Pontiac GTO>> > > You should look at the new Pontiac GTO. And check out where it comes from! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Leland Jackson > Sent: Friday, 5 December 2008 8:28 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Leland! Drive this! > > Adam Buckland wrote: > >> You are assuming that the car producing nations all run according to >> national interests. No, they run on commercial interests, if you walk >> down the streets of Havana you will see plenty of non US cars despite >> governments opposing links with Cuba. The same in the 80's in South >> Africa etc. Where there is a buck there will be someone selling.... >> >> > > Usually a corporation can trace its root back to a country of origin as > the company is usually founded under the laws of the country/state that > issues its charter. Once the company is formed, management can issue > common and preferred stock, as well as debt like bonds and notes to > raise capital. Ownership in the company can be very diverse both as to > the owners national of origin, race, religion, sex, etc, as anyone can > into a company traded on the major stock exchanges. > > Still a company will come under the jurisdiction of one or more > countries/states that can regulate company products by legislative laws > as to what products can be imported or exported etc, etc. > > In a time of war it might be absolutely essential that the USA have a > going concern auto industry that could tool immediately for any crisis. > To try and start from the ground up in such an emergency could be a huge > tasks. > > >> If I walk down the road here the buses are made in Italy, the trams are >> from Germany, most of the cars are from Asia, a sizeable minority from >> Europe, BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen, the occasional Porsche. That there is >> no major automotive production is not a problem. The US should >> concentrate on what it's good at... in all reality compared to a BMW, >> Lexus etc automobiles in general are not one of them despite Mr Ford... >> > > Yes, the challenge facing the USA auto industry is to produce the autos > needed by Americans for the 21 century, and a good starting point would > be a government clean energy policy that would provide the auto industry > with a clear direction of where the USA is headed in the next 10 years. > There is no reason why the USA auto industry can't improve to produce > autos that are efficient, effective, reliable, long lasting, and run on > clean renewable energy. I can remember when the slogan "Made in Japan" > was a mark of shame, but look at Japan today. > >> As an aside though I have a nice Mustang Convertible in the UK but >> that's almost 42 years old now well looked after in my absence and >> probably the last good car to come out of Ford... >> > > I've never owned a Ford Mustang, but I've alway liked the look of them. > The fastest car I've ever owned was a 1964 Pontiac GTO. Now that was a > fun car for a young fellow. > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Leland Jackson >> Sent: 04 December 2008 20:50 >> To: ProFox Email List >> Subject: Re: [OT] Leland! Drive this! >> >> The economy is increasingly >> becoming a global market, so looking at individual national economies is >> >> not as relevant as looking at the world economy as a whole. >> >> Still, there could be conflicts within the world, and an embargo by the >> auto producing nations could be used as a tool to punish the USA. I'ts >> hard for me to picture any country as a power and leader in the >> international community, if the country lacked a vibrant, forceful auto >> industry. I believe the USA's auto industry should be assisted through >> this current crisis in ways where they would emerge as strong global >> competitors somewhere down the road. >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> >> MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: >> >> >>> Leland Jackson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> The crisis in the financial and housing sectors of the US economy has >>>> put many projects on hold or out of business. Even the big three US >>>> Automotive companies and struggling to survive, and they know plenty >>>> about making cars. Also, T-bone (eg T boone) Pickens was forced to >>>> >>>> >> put >> >> >>>> his wind energy project with a switch to natural gas transportation >>>> >>>> >> on >> >> >>>> hold. He couldn't raise the capital needed to go forward with his >>>> >>>> >> plans >> >> >>>> at this time. >>>> >>>> I'm perfectly happy with my TDI VW Jetta Wagon, even with the price >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> gasoline way down. It would probably be best to get GM, Ford, and >>>> Chrysler back on the path to building clean, efficient, reliable >>>> transportation; before, all their auto worker end up making Toyota, >>>> Hondas and VWs, LOL which could present a security problem almost a >>>> great as US dependence on foreign pretroleum. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I see the logic and think of Rick Wagoner (GM) saying "It's very >>> important for the U.S. to have a home team in this global auto >>> industry." in an article online today. Still, I can't help but feel >>> this is bullshit. Japan is a key, strategic ally. Their cars run >>> better, cost less often, and even have a lower TCO when you add up all >>> the repair costs because they're a zillion times more reliable than >>> >>> >> the >> >> >>> US cars. To support the US auto-industry might sound like the right >>> thing to do using Wagoner's logic, but unless they change, it's merely >>> >>> >> a >> >> >>> welfare handout for substandard quality, imo. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
