I know that California is a massive state with a lot of employees, but I still 
can't believe it's not cheaper just using a contracted payroll system like ADP

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--- On Fri, 12/5/08, KAM.covad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: KAM.covad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [NF] Amusement
> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 2:30 PM
> My knowledge is very old, but when I programmed in Cobol,
> the 'database' was nothing but 'bytes on the
> disk'. The definition of the
> fields were in the Cobol program. For those younger folks
> who know about sql, fox, etc, there was nothing in the
> 'database' that
> would give you a clue about where the data was. It gets
> worse. Cobol allows overlaying data. I could have a 128 byte
> record, bytes
> 21-26 could be ASCII text and in a different record it
> could be a floating point. Again, the definition was in the
> Cobol code.
> There would be one byte (for example) that would tell you
> how to interpret that record. In other words, without the
> code, you could
> have a very hard time working with the data. Back in the
> old days, disk space and memory was extremely expensive so
> you had to do a
> lot of dirty tricks in order to have a large database with
> reasonable access times. I code for healthcare. I remember
> packing the
> diagnosis codes into binary so that we did not have to use
> 6 bytes. Hope that is clear.
> 
> This seems like a good opportunity for California to get
> some bids from ADP, Intuit, etc for a payroll program.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin Cully"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <profox@leafe.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [NF] Amusement
> 
> 
> I guess that's an interesting question.  What were the
> common databases
> used with Cobol in its heyday?  DB2 perhaps?  I sure
> don't know.
> 
> -Kevin
> CULLY Technologies, LLC
> 
> 
> Kenneth Kixmoeller wrote:
> > The COBOL is probably the UI to the database, and (as
> I'm sure every
> > bureaucrat facing a huge pay cut will tell you):
> "That is the only
> > way to do it! (So *there*, Gov.)"
> 
> 
> 
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