There is a great body of proof. Your existence as a sentient being is one.
The physical universe with its amazing order and structure is another.

The amount of proof has never been a problem. We see the creation of the
universe as some gigantic random event rather than a designed place created
by a Designer because it suits our mindset. You are looking for ABSOLUTE
proof but you wont find it in this life. But you believe in a round earth
despite never having orbited the earth. Observation from the surface
suggests it is true but it is far from absolute truth. The other evidence
you have is second-hand. Does that make it trustworthy?

For billions of people all thru history, a belief in GOD has not been a
problem. They see Him, talk to Him and see His acts. I believe Martin Luther
King existed but he never spoke to me o visited me. I never saw him for real
and never will. All I have is other peoples accounts and we all know how
unreliable eye-witness accounts. I don't have any reason to doubt his
existence because so many people say it is true - invluding vast numbers of
people who also never saw him.

It isn't that simple.

-----Original Message-----
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Nicholas Geti
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 8:31 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from
Castro

There is zero proof of the supernatural. Houdini spent his lifetime exposing

charlatans because he knew all the tricks and didn't like people cheating 
the public. He never claimed he was supernatural.

Tell me one proof.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Madigan" <mmadi10...@yahoo.com>
To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from 
Castro


> There is enough proof of the "supernatural" to understand that our 
> understanding of science is still limited.  God and Science do co-exist, 
> we just don't understand the science of the supernatural.
>
> *************************************************
> 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Geoff Flight <data...@adam.com.au> wrote:
>
>> From: Geoff Flight <data...@adam.com.au>
>> Subject: RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from 
>> Castro
>> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <profox@leafe.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 5:43 PM
>> There a a number or aspects of our physical world which
>> millennia ago were
>> contradictory and unexplainable - 'a mystery' until
>> science explained it.
>> The terms 'contradictory and absurd' are often
>> nothing more than 'we don't
>> understand it at all'. At the subatomic level many of
>> the laws of physics
>> seem not to apply. Particles exist and behave in manners
>> that are
>> contradictory and absurd. The arrogance is in thinking that
>> something is
>> wrong because you personally cannot understand it and fit
>> it into your
>> mindset. The universe is bigger than you. God is vastly
>> bigger than you and
>> your understanding (or not) of both doesn't alter their
>> existence in any
>> shape or form.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
>> [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ken Kixmoeller/fh
>> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 4:59 AM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character
>> reference from
>> Castro
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>>
>> > God is what God is.  Your desire to classify and
>> thereby set in stone
>> > a set of principles associated with that position is
>> not relevant to
>> > the situation.  Because God is what God is.
>>
>> Reminds me of the George Carlin bit about going to Catholic
>> school --
>> when obviously self-contradictory or patently absurd tenets
>> of the
>> Faith came up and got questioned by students, the priests
>> would
>> answer "Well, it's a mystery." Gee thanks,
>> father. That clears it all
>> up.
>>
>> Ken
>>
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