Oh, and then there's this, January 8, 2006: <http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html>
- - - Duckworth knows that political pundits are focused on her. As a Democratic candidate in a historically Republican district trying to win the House seat being vacated by retiring Republican icon Henry Hyde, her 6th District race is becoming a Democratic Party priority and a talking point among political heavyweights. "Very rarely have I met a more impressive person than Tammy Duckworth," said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in an article the day before she announced her candidacy Dec. 18. "She just has the poise and exudes the type of character that I think would make her an astounding public servant." Duckworth is happy to point out that she and Hawai'i-raised Punahou graduate Obama have "a kama'aina connection." Both were born outside the country - Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand - and graduated from high school in Honolulu - Punahou and McKinley, respectively. - - - Hmmmm. Once upon a time suggesting Obama wasn't born in Hawaii was OK, even in Hawaii..... - Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > Behalf Of Bob Calco > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:37 AM > To: 'ProFox Email List' > Subject: RE: [OT] [USP] Barack Obama and Hawaii On the Ropes > > For the cut and paste challenged: > > http://bit.ly/1b0wG5 > > - Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > > Behalf Of Bob Calco > > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:28 AM > > To: 'ProFox Email List' > > Subject: RE: [OT] [USP] Barack Obama and Hawaii On the Ropes > > > > Funny what you find in the archives. This, from 2004: > > > > > <http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/new > > s2606 > > 0403.htm> > > > > - Bob > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > > > Behalf Of Adam Buckland > > > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:58 AM > > > To: ProFox Email List > > > Subject: RE: [OT] [USP] Barack Obama and Hawaii On the Ropes > > > > > > Because his school and medical records are none of your or my > > business. > > > There is no need (unless he campaigned on his school records) for > > them > > > to be released. You have no right to see my records and I have no > > right > > > to see yours. > > > > > > If he has proven his NBC status enough to be able to take office > then > > > that should be the end of it. If he hasn't then why hasn't a judge > > > ordered him to? > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > > > Behalf Of Bob Calco > > > Sent: 15 October 2009 13:46 > > > To: 'ProFox Email List' > > > Subject: RE: [OT] [USP] Barack Obama and Hawaii On the Ropes > > > > > > > What pile of rubbish, how can you have legal definitions of a > > > natural > > > > born citizen... when there was no country to be a citizen of... > > Also > > > > dual citizenship does not preclude being a NBC. If you take the > > > parents > > > > aren't US citizens and include English law to which the posting > > > points > > > > towards... > > > > " every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born > > > > subject". > > > > > > The Wikipedia article on natural born citizenship shows how > difficult > > a > > > legal issue it really is when you start sifting through nuances > about > > > parental allegiance, the latitude that states have in defining who > a > > > citizen > > > is, etc: > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen > > > > > > Whatever the case his identity itself on even the most basic levels > > is > > > a > > > mess. > > > > > > His father was a British subject, not a US citizen. His step father > > was > > > a > > > citizen of Indonesia, and adopted him, making him likely a dual > > citizen > > > on > > > some level of possibly 4 countries ...US, GB, Kenya and Indonesia. > > I'd > > > like > > > to see his college records just to see what his records say... Was > he > > > perchance Barry Soetoro from Indonesia? > > > > > > The dude has something on his long form birth certificate, school > > > records > > > and medical records worth hiding. Or he wouldn't be protecting and > > > defending > > > them from any scrutiny with an army of lawyers, or pretending the > > short > > > form > > > suffices to prove his eligibility. > > > > > > The man is now President of the United States for crying out > loud... > > > but > > > all > > > his vital records are sealed. Why? > > > > > > > > > > > This is a dead subject except for conspiracy theorists and those > > who > > > > just want to divert attention from a new government taking over > > from > > > > the > > > > most unpopular president for many decades. > > > > > > I guess I'm a reluctant birther, one who still thinks the issue of > > > paternity > > > may be what he's actually hiding (Frank Marshall Davis), and > started > > > out > > > technically skeptical on the citizenship issue. But it's a curious > > > thing. > > > > > > If the issues were totally bogus, there would not be so many > lawsuits > > > from > > > so many different sources in so many municipalities across the > > country > > > challenging the so called established facts, nor would the main > > reason > > > for > > > the dismissal of the suits not be the facts themselves, but rather > > lack > > > of > > > standing or jurisdiction; nor would there be a trial over it that > > made > > > it > > > past such technical hurdles and is now scheduled for January 26, > > 2010, > > > in a > > > California court, which the Justice Dept is trying desperately to > > > quash, > > > because discovery could open up the documents that are for some > > reason > > > sealed. > > > > > > If they were totally bogus, the State of Hawaii wouldn't be > fighting > > > attempts to obtain proof of the basis on which their declaration > was > > > made---it is in fact a statutory requirement to make such > > > determinations > > > public. But so far they haven't. It's just an assertion at this > > point. > > > > > > If they were totally bogus, he'd just release his long form birth > > > certificate, school records (indicating perhaps what citizenship he > > > CLAIMED > > > as a matter of getting federal aid and/or acceptance to the > > university) > > > and > > > be done with it. > > > > > > But, for some reason, he won't. In fact he signed an executive > order > > on > > > day > > > 2 of his presidency that effectively sealed his records. > > > > > > And then there's the fact the DNC notarized 2 different versions of > > the > > > nomination letter---one with language regarding eligibility, the > > other > > > without...the latter being what got filed with the states. > > > > > > Why is that? > > > > > > And to make matters juicier, it is now established by credible > > sources > > > what > > > Jack Cashill discovered by various methods of literary > investigation, > > > namely, that Bill Ayers was indeed on some level a MAJOR > contributor > > to > > > the > > > writing of Dreams. This directly contradicts Obama's claim to have > > > written > > > every word himself, and has implications that go way beyond the > usual > > > stigma > > > of needing a ghost writer, given who and what Ayers is, and what > he's > > > claimed in the past about his relationship with him. > > > > > > There is something very false and plainly deceptive about this guy > > you > > > all > > > think is some political savior. > > > > > > And possibly very dangerous, and not just for America. > > > > > > Also, consider what our Founders believed about the threat of > foreign > > > plots > > > to infiltrate our politics. Federalist Paper #59 concludes with > these > > > instructive words: > > > > > > "It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country, > > > under an > > > efficient government, will probably be an increasing object of > > jealousy > > > to > > > more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to subvert it > > will > > > sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers, and will > > seldom > > > fail > > > to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, > > > therefore > > > ought in no case that can be avoided, to be committed to the > > > guardianship of > > > any but those whose situation will uniformly beget an immediate > > > interest > > > in > > > the faithful and vigilant performance of the trust." > > > > > > I believe we will regret entrusting it to Obama, and when it's all > > > done, > > > he'll be even less popular than George Bush, who is already looking > > > like > > > a > > > fiscal tight-wad and supernaturally tolerant of criticism by > > > comparison. > > > > > > - Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] > On > > > > Behalf Of Bob Calco > > > > Sent: 14 October 2009 19:17 > > > > To: 'ProFox Email List' > > > > Subject: [OT] [USP] Barack Obama and Hawaii On the Ropes > > > > > > > > http://bit.ly/8LOVs > > > > > > > > - - - > > > > The State of Hawaii will soon be forced to reveal the information > > it > > > > used to > > > > declare Barack Obama a Natural Born citizen. This will be very > > > > interesting, > > > > considering Obama's Father was a British Citizen. therefore > Barack > > > > Obama > > > > Jr > > > > is also a British Citizen, and was at birth by the very nature of > > his > > > > parentage. > > > > > > > > Barack Obama, by legal definitions going back to the 1600's is > not, > > > was > > > > not, > > > > and never has been a Natural Born Citizen. It does not matter > where > > > > Barack > > > > Obama was born; he was a dual American/British/Kenyan citizen. He > > > could > > > > have > > > > been born on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C. > > > > itself, > > > > and it would not matter. The basic fact of Barack Obama's > parentage > > > > remains > > > > the same. A Dual Citizen cannot ever be a Natural Born Citizen. > > > > > > > > There is absolutely no doubt. > > > > > > > > There is an Usurper in the White House, and his name is Barack > > Obama. > > > > He > > > > and > > > > those who aided him in this usurpation, including the DNC are > > guilty > > > of > > > > Treason to the United States. Every law that has been passed, > every > > > > treaty > > > > signed, every order issued to the military has zero legal weight. > > > > > > > > This leads to a singularly terrifying reality that must be dealt > > > with. > > > > The > > > > United States does not have a constitutional government. > > > > > > > > This is the reason the Democrats in Congress are pushing things > > > through > > > > as > > > > fast as they possibly can, without reading and in the case of the > > > > Senate > > > > even writing the legislation they are voting on. Once it becomes > > > public > > > > knowledge what the Democrats and the DNC have done in their fraud > > > upon > > > > America with Barack Obama, they will not be able to get anything > > > done. > > > > Rightly so. > > > > > > > > This is a scandal and cover-up 100 times the size of Watergate. > > This > > > > time, > > > > it won't be just a President resigning in disgrace, it will also > be > > > the > > > > DNC > > > > Leadership who will be under the criminal investigation > microscope > > > for > > > > the > > > > cover-up, and it is a scrutiny they cannot withstand. > > > > > > > > This is the reason Barack Obama is doing everything he can to > keep > > > > people > > > > focused on the irrelevant issue of his birth certificate. He > would > > > > rather > > > > people be thinking about where he was born rather than the > > > citizenship > > > > that > > > > was conferred upon him by his British father. > > > > - - - > > > > > > > > The letters she quotes earlier in the article from the state of > > > Hawaii > > > > were, > > > > to say the least, eye opening. They clearly don't want to explain > > the > > > > basis > > > > for their declaration, at all. > > > > > > > > Gets curiouser and curiouser all the time. > > > > > > > > The only way it could work out that he's a Natural Born US > citizen > > is > > > > if > > > > his > > > > father -- as I hypothesize in this case -- is actually Frank > > Marshall > > > > Davis. > > > > > > > > http://bit.ly/224zI2 > > > > > > > > > > > > - Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/03b101ca4db2$08be7f20$1a3b7d...@rr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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