It's the rage among dorks. I can't wait til composting toilets become all the rage.
--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Leland Jackson <lela...@mail.smvfp.com> wrote: > From: Leland Jackson <lela...@mail.smvfp.com> > Subject: Re: [OT] unaffordable at any speed > To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com> > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 6:27 PM > Eco-friendly is all the rage, and it > pays to be seen as one who is in > style, (eg green conscience). LOL > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > > > On 08/02/2010 05:10 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > > Charles Krauthammer says the douche bag Hollywood > stars will buy them and park them in front of their houses > and drive their Escalades. > > > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Leland Jackson<lela...@mail.smvfp.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> From: Leland Jackson<lela...@mail.smvfp.com> > >> Subject: Re: [OT] unaffordable at any speed > >> To: "ProFox Email List"<profox@leafe.com> > >> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 6:01 PM > >> On 08/02/2010 04:41 PM, Michael > >> Madigan wrote: > >> > >>> Maybe I should copyright the term. > >>> > >>> > >> I doubt that is possible. > >> > >> > >>> I still haven't seen anywhere what the total > number of > >>> > >> kilowatt hours it will take to charge a Chevy Volt > from > >> completely discharged to completely charged. > >> > >>> Chevy will have available a 120 V and a 240 V > home > >>> > >> charger, the later being more efficient. > >> > >>> > >>> > >> Although electric cars continue to improve, I have > a hard > >> time getting > >> excited about them. The general public seem > to only > >> see the advantages > >> of electric cars; because, electric cars have > been > >> advertised by the > >> auto industry to cost less per mile driven, which > the auto > >> industry has > >> way oversold the public. > >> > >> The general public seem to be blinded to all the > >> disadvantages of the > >> electric car, which when considered in the > overall > >> evaluation of cost, > >> easily make them more expensive to operated, > especially if > >> you eliminate > >> any subsidies provided by Uncle Sam in the way of > tax > >> credits, etc. > >> > >> http://www.articlesbase.com/cars-articles/top-7-disadvantages-of-electric-cars-577453.html > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> LelandJ > >> > >> > >> > >>> --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Leland Jackson<lela...@mail.smvfp.com> > >>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Leland Jackson<lela...@mail.smvfp.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [OT] unaffordable at any > speed > >>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<profox@leafe.com> > >>>> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 5:31 PM > >>>> Thanks for the new term: > >>>> eco-weenie. LOL > >>>> > >>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=eco-weenie > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> LelandJ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 08/02/2010 04:21 PM, Michael Madigan > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> It won't be too bad if the charging is > done > >>>>> > > >> off-peak, > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>> but charging millions of cars on a summer > day can > >>>> > >> choke the > >> > >>>> electrical grid. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Until you can charge a car in 5 > minutes and > >>>>> > > >> drive for > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>> 300 miles on a charge, forget about these > cars > >>>> > >> being > >> > >>>> attractive to the average American. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> For me personally the Chevy Volt > design is > >>>>> > > >> better > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>> since it has a backup gasoline recharging > system, > >>>> > >> but the > >> > >>>> car will only appeal to Ecoweenies right > now. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Don't get in to big of a > hurry. The > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> electrical grids > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> currently in use > >>>>>> around the world are in many cases > already > >>>>>> > > >> maxed > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> out. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> Replacing the > >>>>>> petrol engine with the electric > engine > >>>>>> > > >> running > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> off > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> batteries will > >>>>>> greatly increase demand for > electricity > >>>>>> > > >> and will > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> require a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> huge > >>>>>> investment in new electrical > lines, (eg > >>>>>> > > >> the > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> electrical > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> grid). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The new lines will need to be laid > between > >>>>>> > > >> major > >> > >>>>>> metropolitan area so > >>>>>> new power plants running on solar, > wind, > >>>>>> > > >> natural > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> gas, coal, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> petrol, > >>>>>> water, and other type of energy > can > >>>>>> > > >> connect to > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> them as an > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> outlet for > >>>>>> their electricity. A single > >>>>>> > > >> electrical line > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> of a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> given dimension can > >>>>>> only carry a finite amount of > electricity > >>>>>> > > >> before > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> it's > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> full. Once a line > >>>>>> is full, an addition line must be > laid to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> increase > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> capacity. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It could take decade to make the > >>>>>> > > >> transition in > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> any > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> significant way to > >>>>>> the electric cars, and the > electric motor > >>>>>> > > >> is not > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> well > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> suited to > >>>>>> transport by air, ship, rail, and > 18 > >>>>>> > > >> wheelers that > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> do the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> heavy lifting > >>>>>> in commercial transportation of > goods to > >>>>>> > > >> the > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> consumer, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> which is the > >>>>>> heart and life blood of an > economy. > >>>>>> > > >> I don't > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> see a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> total transition to > >>>>>> the electric car. I think > the > >>>>>> > > >> electric car > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>> will > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> become just another > >>>>>> option like petrol or diesel > cars. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> LelandJ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > [excessive quoting removed by server] > > _______________________________________________ > Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com > Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4c57463a.8000...@mail.smvfp.com > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are > the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or > medical advice. 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