You can alter the display like you could in j602 by setting the noun DisplayForm in the base.cfg file. You can access it from the jgtk menu using Edit|Configure|Base
As others have described in this thread, beginners come in many different shapes & sizes which makes it pretty hard to come up with the "right" set of tools for beginners. I know for example that it took me at least 18 months before I really started to understand tacit. I was happy and productive without it. For others tacit J is why they're drawn to the language. Here's one relatively understandable way of defining the cosine rule that might work for beginners. require 'trig' NB.*cosrule v Uses cosine rule to calc missing angle/side NB. monadic result: length of missing side NB. dyadic result: size of missing angle NB. y is: lengths of known sides NB. x is: size of angle opposite unknown side NB. eg: cosrule 4.2 6.9 4 NB. eg: 31.8183 cosrule 4.2 6.9 cosrule=: 3 : 0 'a b c'=. 3 {. y dfr arccos ((+/ *: a,b) - *:c) % 2*a*b : 'a b'=. 2 {. y C=. rfd x %: (+/ *: a,b) - 2*a*b*cos C ) On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Alex Giannakopoulos < aeg...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks Ric > > I wasn't thinking of myself so much, I've got used to the J convention now, > but more of what would make a good default startup for a newcomer. I will > look at the script though, always nice to see how others do it. > > As for the capped fork, yes I can live without it, just about, but I > certainly couldn't when I stared out, especially - as I said - since this > is the format returned by the 13 : verb. > > OK, here's another one: > I have recently switched over to j701(gtk) from j602. > On the whole, I like the new colour-coded approach to verb description, but > sometimes, in complex cases, I really appreciated j602's boxing of the > structure, which went a long way to make things clear. (one of J's best > debugging tools). Is there a way to emulate this under 702gtk? > > > On 1 December 2012 08:03, Ric Sherlock <tikk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Alex, > > Not sure if you're aware of the trig script available as part of the > > 'math/misc' addon, but it may contain at least some definitions you'd > like > > to use. If you have the addon installed then you can load the definitions > > using: > > require 'trig' > > > > If you restrict yourself to writing explicit J then it is perfectly > > possible to get away without using capped fork. > > > > Ric > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm