If in reference to 'exit' you are referring to J going of to never never land and not responding to anything- I fail to se where some J command is going to work. In Windows I can ctrl-alt-delete and shut down J (with loss of what I was doing) . Does this situation occur- yes , definitely, -likely because for some unknown reason, I have set up infinite looping or a situation where J simply chokes (message I get is J is running normally?)- If it can interrupt a process , q' ' is great but If one cannot enter q ' ' because the machine is busy chasing its own tail then what good is it?

Don Kelly
On 20/01/2014 10:31 AM, Devon McCormick wrote:
This is a good point and it's been brought up before.  I define
    q=: 2!:55
and enter
    q''
to exit J but it's not standard.  We should probably make "exit" more
accessible.


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Blake McBride <bl...@mcbride.name> wrote:

Greetings,

Just providing some feedback....

The fist thing I wanted to know when I started J was how to exit.  I did
some research and discovered 2!:55.  I then defined a verb and used that to
exit.  Therefore, in order to get a clean way to exit a new language, I had
to learn what a verb is, what system verbs were available, how to define
it, and how to load it.  (I know about ^d but think that is hardly a clean
way to exit.)

Now, years later, I discover the pre-defined verb 'exit'.  I checked the
docs, especially "Learning J".  There is no mention of 'exit'!

As someone who has played with many languages over the years, and in fact
an author of one, I respectfully suggest updating chapter 1 of Learning J
to tell the user how to exit.  Making a research project out of the first
obvious desire is an unnecessary impediment to a language acquision.

Additionally, since I discovered 'exit', a comprehensive dictionary of
pre-defined verbs would be very helpful.  (I know about z, etc.)

Thanks.  Just some thoughts...

Blake McBride
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