Let me be the odd one out and disagree with those who want J in 5 minutes or presenting different types of nouns in different colors or formats.
IMHO the steep learning curve of J is very useful (and, who knows, intended), it selects the right kind of people. That's how evolution works. To paraphrase Mark Twain: "If we try to convince stupid people, they will drag us down to their level and beat us by experience". So let's not try to make learning J easier, we will end up simplifying the language to a level we don't want. And for people who want to teach J to kids, read http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-gaming-could-be-the-future-of- education/ R.E. Boss (Add your info to http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Community/Demographics ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm