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... This fits the model of "steep learning curve" where we think of the y axis as representing learning and the x axis as representing time. But this curve also reaches rather high. And learning J and mastering J are two very different things. So a related issue has to do with pacing yourself. You probably should not imagine that you will reach the top of that curve any time soon. In fact - since coding is about solving problems and learning to apply your skills - you should not expect that there is a top to the curve (though it's also not completely straight, either). Anyways, my advice would be to pace yourself, and to try and have some fun doing it, and also to realize that it's not just about learning J. Thanks, -- Raul On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Robert Knight <theknightrep...@gmail.com>wrote: > *"The familiar expression 'a steep learning curve' is intended to mean that > the activity is difficult to learn, although a learning curve with a steep > start actually represents rapid progress."* -- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_curve > > -Robert Knight > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:37 AM, R.E. Boss <r.e.b...@planet.nl> wrote: > > From > http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2009/07/steep-learning-curves.html'Thus, > a “steep learning curve” in common parlance refers to the difficulty > > of learning something.' > > > > > > R.E. Boss > > > > (Add your info to http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Community/Demographics) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com [mailto:programming- > > > boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Knight > > > Sent: zondag 16 februari 2014 12:59 > > > To: programm...@jsoftware.com > > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes > > > > > > If J's learning curve were indeed "steep," then learning it in "5 > > minutes" > > > would be feasible. Unfortunately, it is quite shallow. > > > > > > ** > > > -Robert Knight > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:21 AM, R.E. Boss <r.e.b...@planet.nl> wrote: > > > > > > Let me be the odd one out and disagree with those who want J in 5 > minutes > > > or > > > > presenting different types of nouns in different colors or formats. > > > > > > > > IMHO the steep learning curve of J is very useful (and, who knows, > > > > intended), it selects the right kind of people. That's how evolution > > works. > > > > To paraphrase Mark Twain: "If we try to convince stupid people, they > > will > > > > drag us down to their level and beat us by experience". > > > > So let's not try to make learning J easier, we will end up > simplifying > > the > > > > language to a level we don't want. > > > > > > > > And for people who want to teach J to kids, read > > > > > > > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-gaming-could-be-the- > > > future-of- > > > > education/<http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-gaming- > > > could-be-the-future-of-education/> > > > > > > > > > > > > R.E. Boss > > > > > > > > (Add your info to > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Community/Demographics ) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
