Your first sentence in your essay is long. This suggests a highly educated
audience. Personally, I'd like to see some of your skill in teaching -
which I imagine as a little humor, a concise introduction, references to
things to learn. I know you feel that your knowledge is obvious - everyone
feels like that. But it's through restating the obvious that we teach
people. Also, on the internet, it's by linking to things that we represent
our topics. Whether we actually become important is more of a gamble, of
course (less of a gamble, the longer we wait, but internet success has a
strong element of "easy come, easy go" while persistent success requires
some sort of ongoing effort).

So that's one issue.

I have not watched your video yet (youtube stalled on me, when I tried). So
I will just say that any negative comment (loopless code is an example of a
negative comment - you are drawing a comparison with loops and are being
negative about them) needs at least a bit of humor and humility in it.
Loops are sometimes useful - the issue is that often they are more costly
than what they are worth, and it's much easier to experiment with a concise
expression than a verbose one.

But verbose can also be good, in the right contexts.

And that's something that's really important: connecting with the things
that matter in your contexts.

Anyways, I am not worried about presentation of financial computation. I'd
prefer to leave that to the people that do that on a day-by-day basis. And
we have people here that do that kind of thing. What I want to do is hook
them up with youngsters and young adults. And to me that means developing
J's artistic and gaming potential (and not just "code golf," though of
course that can also sometimes be entertaining).

Thanks,

-- 
Raul



On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Brian Schott <schott.br...@gmail.com>wrote:

> In light of the various proposals regarding J-in-5, my contribution seems
> very tangential, but there may be an audience for this approach as well.
> Initially I envisioned a screencast, for the essay, but have had some
> difficulty with producing the screencast and have elected to make a jwiki
> entry. Please provide feedback.
>
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/BrianSchott/Essay/J-in-5
>
> I am preparing a very rough draft screencast at the following link, but it
> will not be available for a few hours, at best.
>
> http://youtu.be/eq5UZAt84ro
>
>
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>
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