They work for me on j803 jhs with courier as the font. u: 9857 ⚁
Cheers, bob On Dec 31, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> wrote: > I use plain jqt on Android > On 31 Dec 2014 20:12, "Skip Cave" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The unicode characters 9856-9861 (hex 2680-2685) don't have the dice >> characters on any of the fonts I tried in jqt64-j803 on my Win 8.1 machine. >> Any idea what fonts might have he dice characters? >> >> Skip >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It all depends on what font is used. >>> >>> Many/most only have subsets of the pictures/fonts/bitmaps/signs for the >>> unicode places. >>> >>> http://unicode-table.com/en/ >>> >>> press a sign and it will give a popup with the unicode number/name >>> On 31 Dec 2014 11:25, "Linda Alvord" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> u: 9856+i. 6 results in 6 empty boxes? I had no trouble getting chess >>>> pieces. >>>> >>>> I tried (jqt font size 16) >>>> >>>> u:200 50$i.10000 >>>> >>>> and don't see any dice. Any ideas? Theree are many symbols but also >> many >>>> boxes. >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Björn Helgason >>>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:40 PM >>>> To: Programming forum >>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Repeated rolling dice >>>> >>>> To display the dice: >>>> >>>> u: 9856+i. 6 >>>> ⚀⚁⚂⚃⚄⚅ >>>> >>>> u: 9855+5 1 4 1 5 2 2 6 2 4 5 6 1 3 6 2 1 4 4 2 ⚄⚀⚃⚀⚄⚁⚁⚅⚁⚃⚄⚅⚀⚂⚅⚁⚀⚃⚃⚁ On >>> 29 >>>> Dec 2014 11:15, "Linda Alvord" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> After reading this thread from September, I couldn't resist an >>>>> "elementary school" version, shown twice below: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> f=: 13 :'>:?y$6' >>>>> >>>>> ]A=:f 20 NB. Original rolls >>>>> >>>>> 5 1 4 1 5 2 2 6 2 4 5 6 1 3 6 2 1 4 4 2 >>>>> >>>>> }:1,6~:A >>>>> >>>>> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 >>>>> >>>>> ]B=:(}:1,6~:A)<;.1 A NB. Boxes show extra >>> rolls >>>>> >>>>> --T-T-T-T-T-T-T---T-T-T---T-T---T-T-T-T-┐ >>>>> >>>>> │5│1│4│1│5│2│2│6 2│4│5│6 1│3│6 2│1│4│4│2│ >>>>> >>>>> L-+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---+-+---+-+-+-+-- >>>>> >>>>> ]C=:+/"1 >B NB. Value of rolls >>>>> >>>>> 5 1 4 1 5 2 2 8 4 5 7 3 8 1 4 4 2 >>>>> >>>>> $C NB. Usable answers >>>>> >>>>> 17 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> f=: 13 :'>:?y$6' >>>>> >>>>> ]A=:f 20 NB. Original rolls >>>>> >>>>> 1 2 6 6 6 5 3 5 1 6 6 3 1 4 2 6 4 1 2 2 >>>>> >>>>> }:1,6~:A >>>>> >>>>> 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 >>>>> >>>>> ]B=:(}:1,6~:A)<;.1 A NB. Boxes show extra >>> rolls >>>>> >>>>> --T-T-------T-T-T-T-----T-T-T-T---T-T-T-┐ >>>>> >>>>> │1│2│6 6 6 5│3│5│1│6 6 3│1│4│2│6 4│1│2│2│ >>>>> >>>>> L-+-+-------+-+-+-+-----+-+-+-+---+-+-+-- >>>>> >>>>> ]C=:+/"1 >B NB. Value of rolls >>>>> >>>>> 1 2 23 3 5 1 15 1 4 2 10 1 2 2 >>>>> >>>>> $C NB. Usable answers >>>>> >>>>> 14 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Linda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raul >>>>> Miller >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:50 PM >>>>> To: Programming forum >>>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Repeated rolling dice >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In addition to Pascal's comments, "0 can sometimes run into an issue >>>>> with word formation rules (when the argument to the right begins >> with a >>>> number). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Raul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Johann Hibschman < >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, that's helpful, although the tacit version of "bulk" is a >>>>>> bit >>>>> >>>>>> too much for me to parse. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I imagine factor of 2 helps because it gets you over the expected >>>>>> 6r5 >>>>> >>>>>> rolls per "game", assuming I did that recurrence right >>>>> >>>>>> (e=(5r6*1)+1r6*(1+e)). >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I do have some lingering style questions though: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 1. It looks to me like David Lambert's solution used both (&>) and >>>>> >>>>>> (">) to force a verb to apply to the atoms, which I would write >> ("0). >>>>> >>>>>> Are there any particular reasons to prefer one over the other? ("0) >>>>> >>>>>> may require a ([) to avoid merging with a follow-up literal, (&>) >>>>> >>>>>> seems a little like exploiting a side-effect of (>), and (">) could >>>>> >>>>>> just as easily be ("+) or any other 0 0 0 verb. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 2. Is there any difference between (bind) and (@:)? They look to me >>>>> >>>>>> like they would be identical. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>>> Johann >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Raul Miller < >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> That is very close to what I came up with, for the case where we >>>>> >>>>>>> want >>>>> >>>>>> only >>>>> >>>>>>> a single value from our result: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> d6=:1 + ? bind 6 >>>>> >>>>>>> repd6=: [:+/(,d6)^:(6={:)@d6 >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a variation on Roger Hui's approach, for the case where we >>>>> >>>>>>> want N values from our result: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> d6s=: 1 + [: ? #&6 >>>>> >>>>>>> bulk=:{.#&0(],~(+/;.1~1:}:@,0~:6&|)@(],d6s@[))^:( >>>>> <mailto:0=6&;|@%7b:@%7b.)%5e:_~> 0=6&|@{:@{.)^:_~] >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Example use: >>>>> >>>>>>> bulk 20 >>>>> >>>>>>> 5 5 5 4 3 3 2 3 3 9 1 4 16 3 3 1 3 17 3 4 >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> This would probably be much clearer if implemented explicitly >>>>>>> rather >>>>> >>>>>>> than tacitly, and probably would be more efficient also. So: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> bulkd6s=:3 :0 >>>>> >>>>>>> r=. i. 0 >>>>> >>>>>>> while. y >: #r do. >>>>> >>>>>>> r=. r, d6s y >>>>> >>>>>>> mask=. }: 1, 0~:6|r >>>>> >>>>>>> r=. mask +/;.1 r >>>>> >>>>>>> end. >>>>> >>>>>>> y{.r >>>>> >>>>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> But statistically speaking, this is still not as efficient as it >>>>> >>>>>>> could >>>>> >>>>>> be. >>>>> >>>>>>> I think we'd do better with: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> bulkd6=:3 :0 >>>>> >>>>>>> r=. i. 0 >>>>> >>>>>>> while. y >: #r do. >>>>> >>>>>>> r=. r, d6s 2*y >>>>> >>>>>>> mask=. }: 1, 0~:6|r >>>>> >>>>>>> r=. mask +/;.1 r >>>>> >>>>>>> end. >>>>> >>>>>>> y{.r >>>>> >>>>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Do you see why this tends to be more efficient? >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>>> Raul >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:50 AM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming >>>>>>> < >>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> this works >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> (, >:@?@6:)^:((0=#) +. 6={:)^:_ i.0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> ([: +/ (, >:@?@6:)^:((0=#) +. 6={:)^:_) i.0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 11 >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Johann Hibschman < <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>>>> To: Programming forum < <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Cc: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:06 AM >>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: [Jprogramming] Repeated rolling dice >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> For fun, I've been running some statistics for a game with an >>>>> >>>>>>>> unusual rule for rolling dice: if a 6 is rolled, roll again and >>>>>>>> add >>>>> >>>>>>>> the result, repeating on any subsequent 6s. I wanted to >> implement >>>>> >>>>>>>> this in J, collecting all the individual rolls (rather than just >>>>> >>>>>>>> the sum.) >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems like there should be a more clever and elegant way to >> do >>>>> >>>>>>>> this, but this is what I have: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> NB. Simple roll. >>>>> >>>>>>>> roll0 =: >:@? >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> NB. This seems to work, but it's not very clever. >>>>> >>>>>>>> roll =: 3 : 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> r =. >:?y >>>>> >>>>>>>> if. r=y do. r=. r,(roll y) end. >>>>> >>>>>>>> r >>>>> >>>>>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> NB. Attempt at iterating via power. Fails because repeats NB. >>>>> >>>>>>>> signal termination. >>>>> >>>>>>>> roll0^:(6&=)^:(<_) 6 >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> NB. Attempt at iterating via agenda. Not even close yet. >>>>> >>>>>>>> NB. ]`(]+$:) @. (=&6) NB. where to stick in the roll? >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> This gives what I expect: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> roll"0 ] 10#6 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 6 1 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 3 0 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 3 0 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 0 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 5 0 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 0 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 6 6 2 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 0 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 1 0 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> 6 3 0 >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> But is there a better way to do this? Also, are there any known >>>>> >>>>>>>> issues with the RNG? I've not gathered enough statistics to >> prove >>>>> >>>>>>>> it, but the results look clumpier (more identical values in a >>>>>>>> row) >>>>> than >>>>> I expect. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, I know that's a common cognitive bias, so it may just be >> me, >>>>> >>>>>>>> but is there a discussion of the quality of the RNG somewhere? >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>>>>> Johann >>>>> >>>>>>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>>>> --- For information about J forums see >>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>>>> --- For information about J forums see >>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>>> -- For information about J forums see >>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>> For information about J forums see >>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> For information about J forums see >>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For information about J forums see >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
