I am indeed not entirely sure what you are thinking of, but you can do
stuff like this:
nrep=: '3!:2 a.{~',&":a.i.3!:1
".nrep 1 2 3
1 2 3
That said, if you really want 5!:5 functionality but as a verb, and if
the use of : to construct that verb is a real problem for you, there's
nothing stopping you from re-implementing that aspect of 5!:5 from
scratch.
Thanks,
--
Raul
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "you cannot avoid referring to the name"
>
> That is precisely the problem. If one intends to use ". , to solve the
> original request, then the linear representation of the argument is
> required and you have to name it. Hence,
>
> lrep=: 3 :'5!:5<''y'''
> lrep 1 2 3
> 1 2 3
>
> works. However,
>
> lrep=: [: ". '5!:5 <''','''',~]
> lrep 1 2 3
> |domain error: lrep
> | lrep 1 2 3
>
> does not.
>
> Therefore, as far as I can see, "it is not possible to produce of that kind
> of verbs without involving an explicit verb (or an adverb or a conjunction)
> which refer to its argument." Perhaps you misunderstood my quoted remark;
> I meant to say that an explicit verb which refers to its argument is
> required, (or an explicit adverb which refers to its argument is required,
> or an explicit verb which refers to one of its argument is required)."
>
> Moreover, some important primitives and foreigns are not tacit friendly
> because of the naming requirement.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> you cannot avoid referring to the name, but there's no need to use the
>> : conjunction for this.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> lrep=: [: ". '5!:5 <''','''',~]
>> lrep 'lrep'
>> [: ". '5!:5 <''' , '''' ,~ ]
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Raul
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > What a coincidence that this type of question was posed a day after I
>> > suggested to incorporate the unofficial Jx interpreter verb extension =::
>> > into the official interpreter!
>> >
>> > I am afraid that it is not possible to produce of that kind of verbs
>> > without involving an explicit verb (or an adverb or a conjunction) which
>> > refer to its argument (such as 3 :'5!:5<''y''' which is not tacit) .
>> >
>> > I would be glad if someone can prove me wrong.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Nikolas Drosdek <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!
>> >>
>> >> I am slightly confused by this however:
>> >>
>> >> 13 : '5!:5<''y'''
>> >> (,'1')"_
>> >>
>> >> as it seems to replace y with 1 instead of giving 3 : '5!:5<''y'''.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> N.D.
>> >>
>> >> 2017-07-05 3:28 GMT+03:00 Raul Miller <[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >> > Well, that depend on what you mean by a "tacit expression".
>> >> >
>> >> > If your concept of tacit is one which does not use names, then no,
>> >> > because this expression uses names.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you prefer a more relaxed concept of tacit programming, however,
>> >> > you might try something like this:
>> >> >
>> >> > lrep=: 3 :'5!:5<''y'''
>> >> > V=: [: ". 'R=:R,' , lrep
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Raul
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Nikolas Drosdek
>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > > Explicitly:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > R=: 0
>> >> > > V=: 3 : 'R=: R , ...'
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Is there a way to write V in tacit form?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks,
>> >> > > N.D.
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