Hi Ed,
I was thinking of explaining Roger's sqrt code as part of next month's
NYCJUG.
You should take a look:
https://www.meetup.com/J-Dynamic-Functional-Programming/ .
Cheers,
Devon

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:49 AM Ed Gottsman <edward.j.gotts...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who responded and in particular for the link to Roger
> Hui’s essay.  The wiki discussion was also very good.
>
> (In an earlier life I disparaged “cargo cult” programming, in which you
> take a few lines of source you don’t understand and integrate them into
> your program.  [That you effectively do the same thing when you adopt
> someone else’s compiled library cut no ice with me.]  J has forced me to
> relax a bit in that regard and I will probably adopt some of Roger’s code
> without entirely understanding it. :-) )
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Apr 21, 2022, at 8:18 PM, Gilles Kirouac <g1...@myriade.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Ed If you expand the Extended Integers section (below by bob), you will
> see a link to an essay by Roger on 'Extended Precision Functions'. There is
> a Square Root verb.
> >
> >   NB. long rational result may exceed line length
> >   sqrt 1x + *:  999999999x
> >
> 1249999998750000000625000000625000000468750000156249999765624999453r1250000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >   sqrt  *:  999999999x
> > 999999999
> >
> >
> > ~ Gilles
> >
> >> Le 2022-04-21 à 14:50, 'robert therriault' via Programming a écrit :
> >> Gilles,
> >> In Nuvoc the extended constant notation can be found here
> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Constants#Extended_Integers
> >> Having said that, it is hidden pretty well and most of its references
> are previous documentation on the jsoftware site. There is certainly work
> to be done on the wiki!
> >> Cheers, bob
> >>>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 11:44, Gilles Kirouac <g1...@myriade.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>> You seem unaware of the extended precision constant notation:
> >>>
> >>> "digits with a trailing x denote an extended precision integer"
> >>>
> >>> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dcons.htm
> >>> [Where is the equivalent in NuVoc?]
> >>>
> >>> I would rather write
> >>>
> >>>   1x + *:  999999999x
> >>> 999999998000000002
> >>>
> >>> ~ Gilles
> >>>
> >>> Le 2022-04-21 à 12:51, Henry Rich a écrit :
> >>>>    3!:0 %: x: 1 + x: *: x: 999999999
> >>>> 8
> >>>> The square root cannot be represented exactly.
> >>>> Henry Rich
> >>>> On 4/21/2022 12:43 PM, Ed Gottsman wrote:
> >>>>> Hello.
> >>>>> I’m working on the Project Euler “Diophantine equation” problem
> (#66) and using J’s extended precision facilities.  I’ve run into behavior
> that confuses me.  Boiled down (and overusing x: just to be sure):
> >>>>>     x: %: x: 1 + x: *: x: 999999999
> >>>>> 999999999
> >>>>> That is (if my syntax is right), the square root of (one plus the
> square of a really large n) is n.  I’m apparently misunderstanding
> something about extended precision.  I’ve tried it with a variety of uses
> of x: but to no avail, and as I read the x: documentation…this is an odd
> result.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
> >>>>> (J901 on iPadOS, for which sincere kudos to Ian Clark.)
> >>>>> Many thanks.
> >>>>> Ed
> >>>>>
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